Joe Frazier (1973) V Andrew Golota (1996)?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    OK, so in the one corner we have Joe Frazier. Not his best, been taking things easy and belting a few journey men out.

    Opposite we have Golota, the powerful pole. Same mind set he had for Bowe here.

    So.. Can Golota do some damage here?
    Or does even this version of Joe get smoking?
     
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  2. cross_trainer

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  3. Moggy94

    Moggy94 Active Member Full Member

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    Golota doesn't have the mentality to hang in there the whole way with Frazier but he will give Frazier plenty of trouble in the early rounds and even rock him, but Frazier toughness gets him by and he wins via late stoppage while being ahead on the scorecards.
     
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  4. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would probably look similar to Golota vs Brewster with Golota making the same KO face we also saw vs Lewis.
     
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  5. Reinhardt

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    Golota melts under the pressure of Joe Frazier
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't agree Joe Frazier was a slow starter, he wouldn't bomb Golota out early.

    I think Golota would have some success early with his reach and jab, but Fraizer would hang in there tough. And eventually catch up to Golota winning by TKO late.

    Golota just isn't strong enough mentality to last the distance vs a prime Joe Frazier.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    What if Golota actually goes on the attack from the get go, and succeeds in hurting him. If Golota sensed Frazier wasn't taking this seriously or hadn't come in, in top shape, then that could actually be his golden chance.
     
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  8. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frazier might win, but his family jewels will lose unless he wears a steel cup.
     
  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The thing is though that would be out of character for Golota.

    He fights behind his jab at measured pace, occasionally mixing in some nice combinations.

    He isn't going to come out firing like a whirling dervish.
     
  10. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Golota doesn't need to. He will stop Frazier before 6.

    You don't need Foreman's super-special uppercut and whinging punches to hurt Frazier badly. JF is just not suited to fighting bigger guys who could punch.
    He did that against other conventional, big HWs. Frazier goes right at you.
     
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  11. Eddie Ezzard

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    I'll go Joe but he will have to dig deep if he rocks up in the same shape as he did for Foreman.

    My thought being that, in 72, Joe took care of Ron Stander easily enough. I don't see Golota being that much better than Ron. While the 73 version may have slipped even further, I still think he should be ahead of any version of Golota. It's the old adage of there being levels; Joe's is higher.

    Then there's styles. Even the 73 version of Joe requires an aggression or level of athleticism I didn't see in Golota whose best performances - Bowe, Grant - seemed to be against taller, slower fighters which allowed him to be measures and methodical.

    Could easily see Joe getting frustrated and struggling right to the latter stages though. Golota wasn't terrible, by any means. And 73 Frazier was not what had made him great.

    One thing I'm fairly sure about. Ali would be at ringside, berating Joe for his inability to 'get that white boy outta there, Joe.' As ever. he'd be the star of the show.
     
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  12. Veerbone

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    Golota can't reach Joe's groin.

    Advantage Golota, or Joe's groin.
     
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  14. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, interesting.

    Mostly this. He might floor Fraziee, but Golota is a great example of a guy who woul get very dispirited seeing someone keep coming back. He'd lead on the cards for the first six rounds, then start getting caught hard. By the ninth he's having a terrible time standing up, is extremely frustrated. In the tenth he's psychologically already given up, is trying for low blows but getting caught by the hook every time he dips to aim them. He falls, gets up, the ref sees the surrender and stops it.

    Frazier ain't looking too great at the end facially, but nowhere near as bad as the hammered right side of Golota's face. The latter's jaw looks like something out of a cartoon.
     
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  15. Titan1

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    Joe wins in 5 by TKO, but has couple of rough spots with Andrew.