Joe Frazier '70 V Mike Tyson '88

Nah.

:think:roll:

 

I'm not saying Tyson's opponents were better, I'm simply comparing the fighters themselves. Joe's legacy is undoubtedly better, but Tyson was just a better head to head fighter.

 

Tyson of '88 KO's Frazier of 1970...:shock:

MR.BILL

 

Tyson by ko within 6 rounds. Too bigg, strong and fast.

 

In my book this could get ugly really quickly.

I have a ton of respect for Frazier and his legacy will never be forgotten but here is a situation where he could get blown out quickly.

"But it's Joe Frazier!" I hear you say. Well yes, but reputation aside it could still get ugly very quicky for him.

For one thing, it's quite remarkable that Foreman aside Frazier never fought a serious puncher. Perhaps his management knew something?
His chin was good enough for the most part, but it was not rock solid. Tyson fought guys with better chins and still knocked them out.

Frazier would also come directly at Tyson, and I can't see how this can spell anything other than disaster, frankly. He would be right in Tyson's face all night long, and even if he crowded him at some point Tyson is going to hit him flush, and my guess is that it would be sooner rather than later.
Tyson had excellent accuracy and would throw punches in bunches, often faster than the other guy could react.

I see Frazier, a slow starter, being overwhelmed early. Tyson could take his best punch, but Joe could not take Tyson's. Joe's lack of height may (may) be a problem for Tyson at first, but once Mike finds his range my bet is it gets very one-sided.

I don't neccessarily buy into the "Frazier late" scenario either. If Tyson didn't take you out early, he adjusted and broke you down one piece at a time. His power and handspeed would dissuade Joe from simply boring in as he was prone to do against the likes of Ali, who lacked the punching power to put serious hurt on Joe.

In any event, I don't think it goes very far. Tyson within 2 rounds, maybe less.

 

I favour Tyson by early stoppage.

 

Not necessarily. And I agree with this poster who said that, head to head, Tyson beats Frazier, but Frazier ranks higher overall in terms of accomplishment.

Make a list of some matchups with Tyson, if you'd like, and I'll give you my spin on them.

 

This statement shows you don't really know much about their respective styles.

Sorry to come off as an arrogant *****.

 

We're talking bout tyson of '88...back then he was smart, patient, in his physical prime,mentally tough enuf to take the fight to 12rds. but i do agree a fight with a frazier of '70 would be a toss up, but still im leaning in tyson.

 

well explained bro:happy

 

Yeah, I'm not too fond of this comparison, either. Tyson was more like Patterson than anybody else.

As for the matchup... What speaks in Joe's favour is that Tyson never was too happy fighting at close range and that he wasn't the type to come out on top in a war of attrition. Frazier also has the superior stamina and will power, and is the better fighter at close range.

What speaks in Tyson's favour is that he's faster, as quick a starter as Joe is slow, more powerful, has a better chin and probably is stronger as well. He also has a better right and he demolished Marvis Frazier, who had a style smiliar to his dad's, while Joe never met anyone like Tyson.

The smart money probably would be on Tyson, but I would root for Joe...

 

Frazier forces Tyson to fight on the back foot and beats Tyson on the inside where he holds an advantage. Tyson doesn't have the physical strength to push Joe around like Foreman did. Frazier stops Tyson late after getting up from the canvas.