Joe Frazier and the sympathy crew

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  1. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, doubt it. I have a pretty good hunch as to who it is though. Old forum regular. Haven't seen him here in a while though.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I cuss at all the trolls.

    You might be right, and I would be mad if you were right, but there's no way to know if you're right because all you have provided in terms of proof is an article that seems to indicate that Joe Frazier called mint sauce green jelly :lol: Given the weight of the accusations you levy at Kram, Arkush and Frazier, that is pitifully weak.

    Your posts indicate otherwise, but okay.

    He was fired for mis-conduct, and it's possible you're even right about the reason, but I have no idea why you think this proves he is lying when he says Frazier tried to help Ali get his licence back, and was vocal about it.


    All in all, you seem mostly confused.
     
  3. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You dont know what the hell you are talking about.
     
  4. I gave you facts. You take them however you want to. Muhammad did more for black then any other athlete combined.

    I might be going too far with my insults on Joe but Ali to me is beautiful. I would lose hope and die from depression if I had his sickness. But the guy still has a smile and trying to live his life. Wish Joe just could have put the beef behind him. The fact that he was gloating that he can still walk and talk unlike Ali was such a letdown. Then God rest his soul, he passed away. Ali looked terrible in the funeral. From what I read, he was hurt by his death. I, as a boxing fan hope that both men inside had some love for each other. Both of them have more courage then I will ever have.

    People have no clue how much Ali helped the black community. You can find his influence in every aspect of black culture today. Hip hop took a massive amount from him. Black people began speaking their minds. Ali had dark sides about him for sure.
    He was an ******* to other boxers.
    He did go women crazy for a couple of years.
    He did let the muslims take advantage of him.

    But the fact that he was not perfect is what makes him great.
     
  5. Care to give an argument.
     
  6. Vinegar Hill

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    WTF is this **** anyway specifically starting a thread to put down Joe Frazier?
    I'm Ali's biggest fan I love the man but to me you can't love Ali and not love Joe Frazier.
    They're entwined in the soul of boxing, strip away their different skills and personalities they 're one and the same.
     
  7. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    They reckon a certain Dr Martin Luther King didn't do too badly for the black community either.

    Ffs, Ali was a boxer, who refused to go and murder people in their own country, because of their political beliefs.

    He didn't stand up against racism, and segregation in the way, and at the same time as the Doctor did.
     
  8. I'm just giving some facts about the people that hate Ali for what he did to Frazier. I do apologize if I went too far. Jealousy, sensitivity and ignorance are just not something I pride on.
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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  10. I'm talking about athletes. MLK and Malcolm X are much bigger then Ali. They inspired him for sure.
     
  11. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier gave a lot of time and cash to the Sugar Ray Youth Foundation of which I was a member in 1973. Without Joe we would've had no place to box or even do our homework after school without worrying about getting shot or beat up!
     
  12. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    By the way in the 1st fight. Ali got his ass thoroughly kicked! It wasn't close....
     
  13. That punch was amazing. I always wonder how Ali got up so fast after that. Nothing wrong with getting your ass kicked. I'm glad Frazier had a positive effect in your life, as Ali had in mine.
     
  14. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The term Uncle Tom comes from Harriet Beecher Stowe's book Uncle Tom's Cabin. The popular term of uncle Tom is the opposite of the character in her book. Our interpretation of an Uncle Tom is really the Sambo character in the book who would sellout other black people....

    Uncle Tom never ratted out, turned on or disparaged any of his own people.

    But the term became popular in it's current use today for reasons unbeknownst to anyone....
     
  15. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    With respect you didn't specify athletes. What you wrote was,


    " You can find his influence in every aspect of black culture today. Hip hop took a massive amount from him. Black people began speaking their minds."

    Again with respect I'd say Dr King had far more to do with black people speaking their minds, and refusing to be treated as second class people than ANY athlete.