joe frazier champ 68 or 70

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  1. fg2227

    fg2227 Guest

    i know joe was undisputed champ in 70 ,but did he win a strap in68 against mathis?
     
    fg2227, Apr 14, 2011
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  2. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

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    He won the New York State Championship from Mathis, but that title was only recognized in New York and a few other states. So, I wouldn't say he was officially the champ until he knocked out Jimmy Ellis.
     
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  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    After Joe beat Mathis,I consider him to have been the number one ACTIVE heavyweight at the time. Most could see that he was already better than Jimmy Ellis.
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I can't remember the odds for the fight, but Ellis was given a good chance ,if I recall correctly.
    Mathis was not even ranked he had a string of wins over pushovers. The NY State Commission got it wrong that time . I think it was a double header with Benvenuti and Griffith, in MSG ?
     
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  5. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He won a version of the HW title that was recognised in NY...Mass....Maine...and a few other states when he KO'd Mathis in 1968...
     
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