Joe Frazier Circ 1973V Razor Ruddock?

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Who takes it?

  1. Ruddock?

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  2. Frazier?

    88.9%
  1. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Stupid comment,Frazier would beat Ruddock late!
    Frazier could not take same shots as Tyson?If anyone could not take shots here it is Tyson not Frazier!
    Frazier had muchgreater chin who could last 16 full rounds!He was stopped twice by hardest puncher in history!Tyson is stopped 5 times and quit once!
    Frazier not only had better chin but better heart also!
     
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  2. RightLeftCombo

    RightLeftCombo Active Member Full Member

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    I think Joe would have enough to take a hard-fought points victory over Ruddock.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I agree, Joe was a tough old bird,, he'd have being hurt but hung on in there I believe. Ruddock would have being blasting away, trying to take Joe's head off and perhaps leaving himself open. But Razor shows heart as well and blasts back when hurt.
     
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  4. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Tyson was just a much better version than Frazier, in every way tyson was better except heart, Ruddock took what Tyson threw at him so I very well think he can take what Frazier would throw, but I can’t see Frazier taking the multiple smash punches Ruddock was throwing at Tyson
     
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  5. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruddock was a formidable puncher with his "Smash" . But he also telegraphed the punch.
    Even this version , a past prime version of Frazier would see it coming.
    I don't believe Frazier at this point of his career had a better chin than Tyson( Or ever) But he still could be harder to hit in 73 than Tyson in 91. Tyson had lost his fantastic head movement by this point of his career, and was becoming static.
    This fight would come down to Frazier avoiding the "Smash". Frazier should be able to get in Ruddock's chest, keep him from winding up his favorite weapon. Meanwhile Frazier's shorter, quicker more accurate , left hook would eventually wear Ruddock down, repeatedly landing cleanly against the so-so defense of Ruddock. Say Frazier after a couple tough rds, but not getting caught cleanly, begins to smoke,around the 5thrd. Stops Ruddock in 10.
     
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  6. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Nope he wasn't!!
    So Tyson accorsing to you had better stamina than Frazoer?Even knwoing Frazier dod 3 15 rounders and many 12 rounders and Tyson went once 12 and almost collapsed?Frazier had better stamina!
    Chin?Frazier was knocked only two times by hardest puncher but never knocked out!
    Tyson was knocked 5 times Frazier never just stopped!
    Defense?Frazier he could bib and weave for 15 rounds while Tyson could only for 5 rounds!
    Ruddock only take Tyson but was stopped by bum LHW Jaco,Morrison and Lewis!
    Frazier left hook is ewual to Morrison and had even better defense,ofense,speed,chin and stamina!
    Frazier could take those smashes easier than Bonavena or Foreman and they were better punchers!And Frazier had better chin!
    Rudock would expose himself and Frazier would wear him down!
     
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    1973 Frazier beats Ruddock by decision

    1970 Frazier beats Ruddock by mid to late round stoppage
     
  8. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Mike Tyson would steamroll Joe Frazier
     
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  9. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Nope!
    Frazier would beat Tyson late worse than Douglas and Holyfield!Frazier would break all his ribbons!
    Tyson is not Foreman and not even Foreman could keep Frazier down!
     
  10. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    He would, Tyson is just the advanced version of Frazier, Frazier just had better stamina and heart, but literally everything else goes to Tyson
     
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  11. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Just better chin,heart and stamina?Those are crucial things for fighter!
    Same case for Evander!Everything was in favor of Tyson against Holyfield except chin,heart and stamina but eho won?
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I think Ruddock would lose due to being too cocky.
     
  13. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This, but I don't think 1970 Frazier would let Ruddock make it 5 rounds.
     
  14. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    FOTC Frazier stops prime Tyson in 7. Mike would be beaten far worse than Douglas did him.

    1973 Frazier gets dropped and stopped by Tyson in 5.
     
  15. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I think Tyson’s chin is better than Frazier’s, and Tyson’s skills and power were so much better than Frazier’s that he could take him out before the stamina issue sets in