Joe Frazier drop another verbal gem

I think leading up to the FOTC, Frazier stated this one...

"Clay kept calling me an Uncle Tom...Uncle Tom? Uncle Tom? You don't see me peeping through anybody windows!"

 

And he wouldn't accept the apology that was offered several times.

 

Rightly so. Though I love Ali, he went way overboard and personal with Frazier, especially when considered how Frazier came through for him during his suspension.

 

True,but as McVey said,Ali apologised many times in more recent years. He realised he went over the top. Shame Frazier could n't move on.

 

There was a documentary about 8 or 9 years ago called the Thrilla in Manila which went into quite a bit of detail on the relationship between the two and why Frazier remained bitter towards Ali. It seemed a bit one-sided in favour of Frazier but obviously Ali couldn't take part in it or respond to it due to his health at that time but still, it was fascinating as it was the first time that I heard the reasons for Frazier's ongoing resentment towards Ali being discussed in detail from Frazier personal side of it.

 

Boxing is the only sport you can get your brain shook, your money took and your name in the undertaker book.

 

I like Joe more as a man than Ali

 

Before the 1st Ali bout Joe Frazier predicted that the fight wouldn't go past the 10th round. I believe Stan Hoffman of the Philadelphia Daily News asked Joe " what happens if the bell rings for the 11th? You {meaning Joe} having said 'it ain`t gonna go more than 10'?"

Joe Frazier responded " what do you think I'm supposed to do? Jump out of the ring because the bell sounds?"

It was one of the craziest questions ever ask an athlete. Joe had more common sense than the writer regardless of education of lack of.

 

Legend has it that Marvin Hagler went to Philly and Joe told him " you got 3 strikes against you already, 1. your a southpaw. 2. your black. 3. Your good!

 

Frazier was a good champ and a fine man ,he was wounded by Ali's remarks and his children suffered because of them too.He couldn't find it in himself to move on though Marvis tried to get him to,his prerogative I suppose.

 

Frazier wasn't very articulate and certainly not highly educated, but he was an intelligent man and a very decent one.imo.
If any of my Grandkids wanted to make him their role model I'd have absolutely no problem with it !

 

Post Foster vs Frazier title fight, Foster asked his "out of the ring friend" Frazier", why Frazier had knocked him out so bad like that" and Frazier responded: "Bob, you were trying to take my Championship away".

 

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I saw a documentary about the first Ali-Frazier bout. That guy Bryant Gumble said "when Ali lost, I cried".
It was amazing to me that the anti-war media, white or black, considered Ali to be the one to be the symbol of the black rights movement. Meanwhile, Ali's trainer and original KY backers were white, and all of Fraziers trainers and handlers were black. Ali taunted Frazier mercilessly about his dark skin color; and of course Ali was a lot lighter skinned. He used a gorilla puppet to the press conferences. Why should Frazier ever have accepted Ali's apology? How could Ali saying "I'm sorry" make up for his many transgressions? And was Ali even honestly sorry?

Certainly Ali met with racism in his life (threw away his Olympic medal when he was refused entrance to a KY restaurant) but he was raised in a decent neighborhood and was an Olympic hero, meanwhile Frazier grew up dirt poor, met with terrible racism in his life and never got a break while he was moving up the boxing ratings.

 

great post