Joe Frazier gets destroyed by the KLITS!

Frazier would be the best opponent either Klitschko faced. (besides Lewis) Best opponent, as in most likely to knock them out, especially Wlad. If Frazier tags Wlad and hurts him with a left hook, Wlad's toast because Frazier is gonna finish him.

I can also see Wlad jabbing, 1-2ing, grabbing, his way to a decision or possibly knockout.

Of course the size difference plays a factor

 

I would bet on Frazier against Wlad. He has the perfect tool (excellent bobbing and weaving) to neutralise Wlad's best weapon, the jab. Frazier wouldn't play Wlad's game and make it an outside boxing match either -- he'd be constantly coming forward, slipping jabs, and making things very uncomfortable for Wlad. Wlad will probably have some success clinching him due to his size and weight, but eventually Frazier is going to start getting those left hooks in from close range. Frazier seems like one of the most dangerous possible opponents you could pick for Wlad.

 

Foreman has more KO's the Wlad has fights. Foreman was aggressive with a solid chin and no fear. Wlad is a shaky scared fighter who took Mormeck 4 rounds.

 

Frazier by TKO8 Wlad Clinchko

Frazier by TKO9 Quitali

 

Frazier would not knock **** out. An dont even dare bring up brewster he was bigger an heavir an most likely had more concussive power. Your talking about 6ft ****in 6 240 plus modern day heavyweight. Frazier would get bullied an manhandled on the inside, slammed left an right with one of the hardest one two jab right hands in history. Fraziers head movement was predictable as **** by the way he fell int a pattern with it an could be timed easy, wlad isnt just a big man hes got a high ring iq. Mother****ers act like wlad is just big an thats it like willard or something

 

You know **** about boxing. Didnt you say GGG will knockout ward. Yeah your opinion on boxing is pretty much ****in irrelevant. lol....

 

If you want to be taken seriously, you can't say things like that. Vlad's jab is on a whole different level in terms of power than Ali's. It's not even close. When Vlad sits down on that jab, it's basically a power punch. As far as Frazier being more elusive, that's plainly false. Haye on the whole gets hit much less than Frazier. Frazier did not have the slickness of a Qawi, he got hit plenty.

You're saying Vlad wouldn't be able to control Frazier with that kind of jab. I'm telling you that the first serious jab that smashes into Frazier's face will stop him in his tracks.

It seems to me that most of your analysis consists of what I would tactfully call wishful thinking. Ali has to dance and move because he has nowhere near Vlad's power. Also, Ali has basically no inside game besides holding, so what is he going to do? Of course he has to move. Remember the second fight, I think it was the second round? Ali hurt Frazier, backed him into the ropes, and they stopped the round early. Frazier could be hurt by Ali, how do you think he's going to take Vlad's right hand?

Let me ask you something, do you think all of Vlad's opponents are ******ed? Or maybe they don't want the money that comes with being the champion, they don't want to secure their financial future? I mean, all they gotta do, according to some, is get a little bit lower and bounce around like an epileptic Energizer bunny - and Vlad doesn't stand a chance. I'm saying that's not enough. Frazier doesn't have the foot speed or the reach. He absolutely has to get inside or he's getting slaughtered. If he gets inside, Vlad can tie him up, lean on him, or just shove him across the ring Foreman style.

 

rose-coloured glasses

 

The closest thing to a Frazier type fighter that Vitali fought was Derek Chisora.

 

An for the record I rate frazier higher. An like him more thn either kiltchko. Im not a kitchko fan. But its straightup delusional to think that the size difference wouldnt mean ****. Keep bringin Wlads losses from 9 plus years ago up though if that makes you feel better. Hes improved and its 2013 get the **** over it.

 

A huge amount of Foreman's KOs were against cruiserweights or blown up light heavies. And former light heavyweight Gregorio Peralta went 20 rounds with Foreman and was never knocked down.

 

Wlad would KO Frazier in 2 or 3, Vitali would KO Joe in 5 or 6.

 

There is massive size difference along with wlads skillset would be the difference.

 

I'm already taken quite seriously, thank you.

So who are the better fighters Wlad has beaten with his jab? Haye? A career cruiserweight champion who never went down once from Wlad's jab? That's somehow definitive proof that Wlad's jab is "on another level"?

Haye gets hit less fighting lesser fighters. Frazier on the front foot is more elusive as he can sustain his head movement as he moves forward, Haye throws himself of balance and has to run. Put Frazier in a ring with Chisora and he won't get hit as much, he can actually roll and slip punches on the inside without scurrying to the ropes in an effort to run like Haye.

You have yet to explain how Frazier was unable to be kept down by George Foreman, possibly the hardest puncher in boxing history, and yet would crumble and halt at the sight of Wlad's jab. You're approaching troll-level nonsense.

There is no wishful thinking here, it's facts. The fact is Wlad does not move as quickly as Ali. Nor is he as physical as Ali. What Ali did to Frazier is not something Wlad does to his opponents.

You're criticizing Ali for having no inside game? Wlad makes Ali look like James Toney :rofl Wlad may have some success in the clinch but he'll take some punishing body shots in the process.

Ali hurt Frazier with speed and blistering offensive combinations. Wlad carefully picks his punches and doesn't take nearly as many risks. Once upon a time he did, and in that time, he got knocked the **** out by fat underdogs in exchanges.

It's not easy to get under a jab and continuously come forward and apply pressure while timing short hooks over the top, but Frazier's one of the best who ever did. On the other hand, do you not think Frazier's opponents didn't want worldwide acclaim in a time when prize fighting was among the most celebrated and lucrative of sports and the Heavyweight Championship globally recognized? Do you think a man could just beef up and put power into his jab to beat Frazier? I'm saying size and a good jab with a strong hook off of it isn't enough.

He has to get inside, and he will, because Wlad is a timid fighter who has to maintain range to get his shots off, and is extremely sensitive to feints, and backs himself up into the ropes against fleet-footed opponents. Wlad's jab loses conviction when he's rushed, and Frazier will rush him. Wlad isn't going to do a thing on him in the clinch besides hold and pray the referee comes to his aid. And in the meantime, Joe will be throwing. Hard.

Joe has cornered more mobile fighters and survived more powerful punchers. So what you're left with is a fight that will inevitably end up on the inside, where Frazier will dominate.

 

Peter who had little head movement ,no boxing iq, no speed and woefull stamina had Wlad on the canvas and retreating in fear.
If he had just one of Fraziers best attributes , Wlad would of been knocked out.