Joe Frazier interview after losing his title to George Foreman

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  1. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

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    thanks for posting, champ. :)
     
  2. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    great stuff. frazier calling ali CLAY all the time. no wonder there was so much hate between the two. look what happened to patterson and terrell in the 60s when they kept calling him clay. one thing that definitely wound ali up but he deserved it after what he called joe.
     
  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Very good interviews, Frazier seems a good guy.
     
  4. FromWithin

    FromWithin Living for the city Full Member

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    I actually think that Joe started calling him Clay after Ali started disrespecting him.
     
  5. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. FromWithin

    FromWithin Living for the city Full Member

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    http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/rediscovering-joe-frazier-through-dave-wolfs-eyes
     
  7. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    man that was decent nice find!
     
  8. PbP Bacon

    PbP Bacon ALL TIME FAT Full Member

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    Man... I understand all the petty rivalries and stuff that goes among fighters, but Frazier's attitude towards Ali is kinda sick sometimes, and somehow diminishes him as an ATG :think

    Just check this out:
    http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/3065738

    "Frazier's pain, anger remains years after trilogy

    Joe Frazier hasn't fought Muhammad Ali in 32 years but he spars with him every day.

    They are both old men now, broken by difficult lives and too many years spent fighting for their paychecks. They have paid dearly for the prizes they won with the biggest price extracted from each by the other.

    Although both would be diminished as fighters if they had never crossed paths, for Frazier neither time nor shared infirmities have softened his heart. He always has been a hard man and there is no harder place inside him than the spot still occupied by Ali. It's a large spot where the bruises remain even after all these years
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    He'd made that clear in 1996 at the Olympics in Atlanta when he was beside himself after learning Ali would be lighting the Olympic flame. Once it was done he told a small gaggle of reporters,
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    That same week, Frazier was signing autographs along with a group of other top American Olympians selected by the United States Olympic Committee as among the best the country had ever produced. A woman and her young son approached and asked Frazier what medal he'd won. When he told her "boxing," she asked if he'd ever fought Ali. That's when the dark clouds began to brew.

    He said he had and she asked if he'd beaten him. He said he did but such is the depth of his feelings on the subject of Ali that he could not stop there.
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    Kram also tells of Frazier claiming he'd made Ali what he is today. When the old writer asked the old fighter if he was referring to his old opponent's long battle with Parkinson's, Frazier snapped,
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    "I hated Ali," Frazier told writer Thomas Hauser for his seminal biography, "Muhammad Ali: His Life and Times." "God might not like me talking that way, but it's in my heart. I hated that man … How would you feel if your kids came home from school crying because everyone was calling their daddy a gorilla? …
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    "I don't like him but I got to say, in the ring he was a man … He shook me in Manila; he won.
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    WHAT THE FUDGE IS THIS NONSENSE!!!!!

    I am a big Frazier fan in the ring, but his attitude bothers me.

    You would think that after 30 years, people should just chill out and get over things, and nope, I am not saying that Frazier should get all Kumbayha with Ali, but at least he should be able to see things with calm and some perspective.... but Frazier seems like a 50 something still crying because the elementary school bully took his lunch money :mad:
     
  9. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've read this but I haven't actually heard Frazier call Ali by his name. This includes interviews from the mid/late-60's when they hardly even knew each other personally.

    With Frazier it seems like depending on the time of the day you ask him, you'll get a different answer on what he thinks of Ali.

    Usually he is wishing Ali nothing but well, aside from the occasional outburst. People tend to make the rivalry out to be a bigger deal than it actually is, in my opinion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_-GC0f9DqI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8hVIHJffyU
     
  10. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    just a quick question, who was screaming "stop it!"
    in the first clip?
     
  11. Arka

    Arka New Member Full Member

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    Ferdie Pacheco and/or Angelo Dundee (I think)