Joe Frazier Lifting weights

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  1. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you say that grappling has nothing to do with pressing then you have no clue what you are talking about. If you are under your opponent if you got a strong bench press it will help you alot
     
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  2. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    lol at young Horse, maybe a premature pit pony with dwarfism
     
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  3. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everybody already knows grappling is very effective in combat for 30 years now lol.

    have you been in a coma since the 90s by any chance?
     
  4. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It uses the whole body together for the most part. One guy I found pretty strong was a mountain climber, I noticed his strength. A lot of guys with big benches were pretty weak grapplers.
     
  5. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    Spot on, I used to work in the house moving biz ( jacking uplarge houses, moving them by truck to new places and then setting them up again ) and some of the older guys were machines. They used to look at the latest, young roided up gym heads n set markets on how long they would last at the job.

    It’s all about specificity.

    Cheers All.
     
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  6. Fury's Love Handles

    Fury's Love Handles Mrkoolkevin Full Member

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    Was it a strength issue or was it a matter of conditioning and technique?
     
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  7. Fury's Love Handles

    Fury's Love Handles Mrkoolkevin Full Member

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    Core and grip strength, probably.
     
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  8. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    Deffo technique and conditioning mate. A lot of the young guys didn’t like to get very dirty either ;)

    Carrying big timber posts, heavy house jacks and joists around, digging holes while hunched under houses with short shovels, carrying barrows full of cement, etc, etc meant there were many varying jobs that all took different skills n different types of strength and more importantly endurance.

    Cheers Mate.
     
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  9. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yup, just below your chest to your hips has a lot of muscle.

    If you have a really strong grip you can really put some mean torque on something. If not we’ll not so much.
     
  10. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And grip strength is so UNDERRATED. If you cant hold onto something you drop it.
    Farmers walks work grip strength pretty good.
     
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  11. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No. Thanks god
     
  12. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Works grip the best actually great for your core and traps aswell as conditioning if i could only pick one exercise it would be the walk.
     
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  13. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. I carried a 5 gallon bucket filled wirh rocks for like 50 yards and wow I really felt it in my traps.
     
  14. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    There is a reason i have an 18.5inch neck at 68kgs... lots of deadlifting and farmers walk.
     
  15. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Not sure if you were alluding to this, but Frazier couldn't always fully straighten his left arm after he taunted a boar on a farm and it slammed into him. This ironically might have made his left hook stronger as his arm didn't fully heal the correct way and it made it easier to keep his arm in the correct position to throw the hook and reload to launch them again.

    As for the thread, Frazier having the endurance to fight at breakneck speeds at a breath taking pace for 15 rounds in a highly competitive era of heavyweight boxing is one of the greatest feats of athleticism in history. It's especially noteworthy considering his lack of natural talents and fast twitch explosive muscle. It was all manufactured through sheer hard work and he did not have a very great body genetics wise for sports. Few people could train as intensely as Frazier did for one day, let alone an entire career.

    Criticizing him for not looking good lifting weights would be like laughing at Michael Jordan's baseball career. I never understood why people think this takes away from Frazier when he was never a weight lifter in the first place. Building strength for boxing in the 70's usually didn't involve weights at all and he likely barely touched then even before boxing.