JOE FRAZIER V JAMES J JEFFRIES?

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Sharkey fought half their second fight with a broken finger and a dislocated arm! He still went the distance and had to be restrained at the end of the fight.He did all the attacking from start to finish! Jeffries had to fight under hot light? Was Sharkey wearing a hat? lol Sharkey was 5'8" 185lbs Frazier 5'11'5" 205lbs Joe has 20 lbs on Sharkey who says Frazier was physically weaker than Sharkey ? Only you!
Jeffries was 6 foot and weighed 204lbs when he won the title ,
nothing in it. Frazier was used to fighting prime 200lbs men Jeffries wasn't!

Fitz one punch ko'd Sharkey TWICE !Jeffries couldn't stop him! Sharkey was never the same after the Jeffries fight ? Was Ruhlin after Fitzsimmons nearly killed him?Who did Jeffries fight after that ? Ruhlin!
Jeffries can win this, he has the chin to take Frazier's shots, and probably hit as hard,but never at the same volume or with the same intensity.
He is going to have to ship a lot of punishment from that unceasingly reloading and firing left hook of Joe's and ,if he couldn't tag wide open Sharkey for the count ,he is going to find the bobbing and weaving Frazier a very problematical target.
Frazier was used to operating at a much higher pace, he was on your chest hooking all night,could Jeffries "go with him",or would he find the unaccustomed accumulation and rapidity of shots too disconcerting ?As strong as he was supposed to be, Jeffries was usually a cautious performer, he wasn't ashamed to backpedal and regroup from the much older and lighter Fitzsimmons , would Frazier have allowed him that luxury?
Jeffries said Sharkey always gave him hell because he was in his face all night, that is Frazier and then some!
Give Frazier his momentum and he is away at the races!
I don't think relying on wearing down a man 200lbs plus who is prime is a good idea for Jeff here, he would be shipping a lot of facial damage and though he would probably ignore it the referee wouldn't!

 

I see Frazier being faster and getting his punches off much quicker ,from what there is to see of Jeffries he threw one punch at a time,that won't contain the Frazier who swarmed all over Quarry and Ali!

 

Bump!

 

If this is under 1899 rules there's going to be a lot of grappling and Jeffries manhandles Frazier.
If it takes place in 1969 Frazier has a much better chance but I see no reason whatsoever to simply assume he does anything at all better than Jeffries. On the other hand it's a perfectly safe assumption that Jeffries does what he likes in the clinches and has stamina that matches or nearly matches Frazier's

Yeah, I know, Jeffires didn't have access to the sudden explosion of seminal papers that overflowed left and right from all the top tier sports science journals in 1965 and changed boxing training forever, but I'm callow enough to think he might make do somehow.

Of course it goes without saying that had Jeffries been born in cold war Ukraine, he'd have access to all that advanced and superabundant Eastern European nutrition and would be 6'8, 270.
Frazier is really screwed then.

 

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In which of Jeffries fight was there any significant grappling?
Jeffries didn't do what he liked with Sharkey in the clinches why would he be more successful with the20lbs heavier 3.5inches taller Frazier?
Jeffries was fighting smaller, older men at a much more leisurely pace ,he would have to," get the lead out" fighting 15 rounders,he wouldn't be able to rely on gradually wearing his man down.Both were "grinders" but there was a lot more urgency about Frazier's work rate.

 

Frazier puts an unmerciful beating on this character.
Jeffries would only prolong the inevitable with his clinching. He'll be leaning into hooks until the bitter, bloody end.

You dont beat Frazier while leaning to the right with your left way out and back and advertising the only punch you're trying to time. He has a reputation for being strong and having a good chin... That won't be enough.

I'm about to release some vids with me commentating on Jeffries' fights (and other fighters from early eras). It will be highly entertaining.

 

I see Frazier winning easily, most likely simply pounding Jeffries into a TKO.

My take is that the skill level had improved enormously over the sixty plus years separating these men. Jeff was big and tough and so his one remote chance would be to outlast a Frazier who punched himself out. I can't see that happening.

Frazier might not have been a defensive whiz, but his bobbing and weaving made him a mile tougher target than Jeff appears to have been on what film we have.

 

That is your problem. You missed the tipple left hook Jeffries threw in his lone round filmed vs Ruhlin. You missed his side step punches too.

Jeffries actually throws more than one punch at one, even as an old man vs Johnson. It's on film to see. Just admit you a bigot and choose to remain ignorant on his career and move on...or for a laugh maybe I'll bump what you said on Frazier before.

 

What the film. Jeffries easily ties Sharkey up, and forces him where he pleases when they clinch.

It is as if you are watching these films on radio. You have no clue!

Frazier was small and not physically strong. Jeffries could have his way with him too.

 

Worth noting a novice Jeffries neutralized a prime Choynski's left hook, Choynski's best punch, and he vastly improved multiple times after that. (He also couldn't use his size much in that fight because of threats of police interference)