Joe Frazier vs David Haye

Why would Haye fight Frazier when theoretically if he had a time machine to pick up prime Frazier he could obviously just have got Ali from the same period. Haye doesn't need to fight the likes of Frazier when he would have just won anyway, it would prove nothing.

 

Haye is not a big heavyweight, while he has an impressive physique he would only have 5-10lbs weight advantage at best against prime Frazier.

Haye has a punchers chance early on as Frazier tends to start slowly but once Frazier get's going he would chew up Haye and spit him out in 6-8 rounds.

Haye struggled with the presure Mormeck applied in their fight and was tiring under the pressure Chisora was applying before getting the KO. Can you imagine how he would deal with Frazier's superior work rate and pressure. Frazier's body shots and insane pressure would inevitably have Haye gassed by the middle rounds leaving him ripe for one of Frazier's signature left hooks.

Bad style match up for Haye, practically a mismatch.

 

You know reading through all your posts you've made since you stumbled upon this site, I have to wonder if you got kicked in the head by a horse as a child?

 

6' 1 1/2" maybe

 

Haye is about the same size as Ali and Frazier is really a bad matchup but I think Haye has learned to fight better when pressured as we've seen in his fight with Chisora and Frazier doesn't like big punchers which Haye is. Chisora has exactly the same style as Frazier (of course he isn't as good) but has a better chin is bigger, slower, punches much lighter and is much less skilled that's why I give Haye a punchers chance in the first half of the fight

 

Are people really comparing Haye to Ali? Or have I had too many beers?

 

glover,

"Modern training?" What the hell does that mean? We are talking about Ali, not Jim Corbett. Ali is on film, and is proven to be one of the most talented men to step in the ring.. I think you underrate toughness and grit in boxing, it has always been there and even carried some of the early greats more than their skills... Not only did Ali have better skills than Haye, but he is tougher.. Haye should not be spoken in the same sentence as Ali, it is a disgrace to the sport.

Hell, Roy Jones' peak was nearly 20 years ago, and I still have yet to see a "modern trained" fighter look even close to his ability.. Why is that? Because certain fighters are timeless.. Their greatness and ability would have success in any era, Ali was one of these fighters, Frazier was one of these fighters... Haye is not. Haye would not have even climbed in the ring with them. One thing about fighters from this "modern trained" era, most don't seem to want to test their toughness. They are more than willing to put their "modern skills" on display though.

 

Frazier could get dropped early, but Haye hits the canvas soon after and stays there.

 

Haye is not as big as Ali. Sorry. Yes he's defined but he was also a cruiser for most of his career. Ali as a pro was always well over 200 pounds and was a legit 6'3."
Haye is listed at 6'3" I'd say he's 6'1" or 6'2" but whatever. Ali had a naturally bigger frame and bone density. The only think Haye has over Ali is power. Ali has the chin,the stamina,the skill and the fearlessness.

Frazier vs Haye is a win for Joe. Haye could hurt Joe sure but Haye is not Foreman!
Joe by KO inside 5. Joe's pressure style,punch output,stamina,toughness etc
Chisora is a poor man's Joe. when Dereck got close he did nothing. when Joe gets close he hits you 6 times. Look at Joe vs Jimmy Ellis! No way does Haye beat Frazier.

Joe Frazier TKO5 Haye

 

Ali is faster than Marco Huck easy. and Ali was never under 200 pounds as a pro. You crazy? Your posts are abominable and mind staggeringly stupid. Respect the history and learn about the past fighters.
Ali KO'd guys over 200 pounds and weighed over 200 pounds. How was he a cruiserweight? Idiot.
If 210 pound Haye can become a champion,what would the tougher,better fighter be able to do to these so called "modern heavyweights?"

HAHA modern as if the 60's and 70's was 1000 years ago!

 

Joe murders him inside 9 rounds.Too much ferociousness,tenacity,too much of everything.

 

LOL. This is quintessential Haye. Also add in "I wanted to fight you, but chose to fight Chisora, why u not fighting me"

 

Would Haye beat Frazier? I don't know.

Could he? Absolutely.

 

That is singularly the biggest heap of **** I have ever heard! Do you rate Ali, then? Joe kicked his ass. Chisora gave Haye a fight and he was a bad impersonator of Joe. Frazier would be on Haye like a rash, and take him out in 5-7 rounds. Haye has fought **** all, mate!

 

I agree; the modern heavies are shameful. Athletic, but shameful!