Joe Frazier vs Evander Holyfield

When two Great/determined fighters meet sometimes its little nuances that can tip the Scales for or against, and who couldn't fail to be impressed by Evanders returning punch Salvos Against Foreman and Cooper after being hurt, - but on closer examination these Clusters were achieved against Static Upper Body Opponents who adopted a Cross arm Defense, - but this did not work against Evander who brought in Hooks/Uppercuts From Underneath to Lift the Head into Volley Valley, this is fine Against a George or Bert, but i feel It wouldn't work nearly as well against Joe due to Joe's Bobbing and Weaving, at this stage of his career Joe made himself surprisingly hard to hit with more then one punch on the way in , before Joe's Back on your Chest to Smother the Rest of the Combination,

I think Frazier would Make part of Evanders combinations miss with most of the other part being Smothered - This is not Knock-Kneed Bull-Rush Tyson Here, But a Ripping Snorting Perpetual Motion Pressure Hooker of a fighter, and I think both fighters Manical Desire for Victory will ultimately over-ride their Skills to a large extent, and it will come down to a battle of wills, rally after rally after rally, and i cant help thinking having been drawn into this Searching of the Souls, Joes Early but unappreciated Body work would lay down the foundation for a hard fought points win or late stoppage, which might see them both on the point of drowning from exhaustion, but with Joe's momentun carring him across the line first, with Evanders rallies Having become more Sporadic ( One hopes carless headwork would not be a factor !!) If Evander thought that Braxton, the Camden Buzzsaw was a Handful…Welcome to PaPa Saw Mill !

The Joe of March 8th 71 would be a terribly hard man to keep off over 15 rounds, particularly if your predeliction is to stand and trade. Evander has excellent skills as he showed in the first round of Bowe 1, but Evander also has a stubborn "Show Me" attitude which can, and in this instance probably would, lead to him abandoning the Boxing skills blueprint in favour of the battle of wills he so relishes, as displayed in Bowe 1st from the second round, yes Evander would see it as a personal challenge to meet this legendary fighter "Head to Head, Soul to Soul, and "Heart to Heart "

In such circumstances Evanders eyes Blaze with the desire to turn fights into a battle of wills and determination, more the skills and application, he is supremely confident that his well of desire runs deeper then most others, and in most cases he would be right , but heart to heart with Joe is not like going heart to heart with most others, he would certainly find out he is not in there with Stephanie Powers !

It seems like Evander likes to take his opponents to the gates of Hades, then dare them to follow him through if they want a chance of victory…they rarely do …
I suspect Smoking Joe would offer Evander his alternate Tour, - A tour of Hell in a Gasoline Suit !

In one for the ages I think Evander gets badly Singed, then slow Roasted, and if its over 15... ultimately cremated. !

( I suspect that some of the paying customers might not be able to stand the Minute on Minute, Round on Round Mayhem

 

I can't imagine this fight being anything less than action packed and crowd pleasing, and wouldn't be surprised if it resulted in multiple meetings.

 

Floyd Mayweather Sr.

 

Holyfield reminds me of a slightly bigger Jerry Quarry, right down to his tendency to indulge in slugfests.

With that in mind, this fight would look like Frazier-Quarry I, with the same result.

 

Great post. :good

 

So Frazier batters Holyfield inside of 5 rounds?

 

The Frazier that beat Ali in 1971 beats ANY Holifield. The pressure would have been too much. Reference Holyfield Vs. Qawi I or Holyfield vs. Dokes, and imagine the kind of heat Frazier was putting on people. Great crowd pleasing, action pact fight however.

 

Sorry bout the Holyfield misspelling.

 

Holyfield is simply the tougher,much stronger,more durable,more skilled,more complete fighter of the two.Frazier never came close to ever stepping in the ring with a fighter with the offense and punch variety that Evander Holyfield at his peak brought.Holyfield had it all: speed,power,accuracy,volume - he was an offensive machine at his very best.A terrific combination puncher and excellent counter puncher,too.


The fight is Holyfield's regardless of where it takes place.Too quick and sharp for Frazier on the outside,and too strong and imposing for him on the inside.Frazier tries that inside **** with Holyfield and he'll find alot of uppercuts coming in his direction.



The Qawi comparison is quite stupid,too.I'd argue that Qawi was alot better defensively than Frazier was was,and was certainly more durable than he ever was,and it's important to note that this fight occured when Holyfield was a mere green prospect at the time.It's quite a remarkable feat that Holyfield was even able to win this fight.Frazier was getting knocked down twice and struggling badly - against lesser opposition than Qawi - at that stage in his career.All matters were settled when Holyfield destroyed him in their rematch.

 

I like this analysis.

I don't see Frazier as being able to back Holyfield up on the inside either. There was way too much strength and technique in the clinches and elsewhere, that was tested against much larger men. Nor can I imagine Frazier being able to take too many of those hooks and uppercuts that would have come at him in bunches. Of course, Holyfield is no George Foreman in the punch department, but he wouldn't need to stop him in two rounds either. I also concur that the Qawi comparison is ridiculous and completely irrelevant. Not only was Evander Holyfield entering that bout with a mere 11 pro fights, but also fighting at different weight class, and still showed that he could battle for 15 hard rounds against a future hall of famer, and win..I could see Frazier being rescued by the referee, ringside doctor or cornerman somewhere between rounds 9-11.