Joe Frazier vs Ingemar Johannson

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Who wins and how

  1. Frazier KO/TKO

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  3. Frazier Decision

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Could Johannson hit Frazier with that Hammer of Thor and keep him down or would the Frazier train roll on and roll over Johannson?
     
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  2. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The latter. Ingo gets the Ellis treatment.
     
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  3. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This will be ugly. Really ugly. And short. With Smokin’ Joe’s hand raised.

    Floyd Patterson liked to have killed Johansson with a left hook. Can you imagine what Frazier would do?
     
  4. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier even at his best was a sucker for a good right hand and Ingo had a great right hand, so Ingo could definitely stop Frazier if he connects.
     
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  5. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Johansson could knock Joe down, but Frazier wins by KO, annnd I doubt if Ingo knocks Joe down, because he probably would not get the chance to set up and unload the right hand effectively. The pressure from Joe Frazier would be brutal and Joe is classes above Ingemar Johansson, in my view.
     
  6. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very little chance of a stoppage in Johansson’s favour IMO. He had none of Foreman’s two-fisted spread of power nor the energy of a first-rate finisher. He could hurt Frazier - but probably wouldn’t because he was quite clumsy & limited - but he’d never win.

    Frazier knocks Johansson out or makes him quit.
     
  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I don't know about that. At best, he could drop Frazier.
     
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  8. Fireman Fred

    Fireman Fred Active Member Full Member

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    Frazier by ko within 6. Too pressure for Ingo but the Swede certainly had the power to hurt or even drop Joe. Pre Foreman I Frazier was dropped twice by Bonavena (not a noted puncher), stunned badly by Manuel Ramos, hurt a little by Eddie Machen (also not considered a big puncher) so Ingo´s Bingo certainly could do damage.

    I just don´t think he would land it and even if he did Frazier would dust himself off and bust him up and probably ko him even faster.
     
  9. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    Ingo has the power to drop Frazier, but none of the craftiness to do so, he's no Foreman, he's no Bonavena.
    Frazier makes him eat the canvas multiple times for a technical stoppage in the fourth.
     
  10. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Fun while it lasts, but Frazier takes it in the middle rounds.
     
  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Yeah, I don't even know if Ingo would have a chance to land his bingo.
     
  12. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have to disagree. Ingo had plenty of power in both hands

    Also, Ingo’s back to back stoppages of Machen and Patterson showed he was an excellent finisher and had a good chance at stopping Frazier even at his best if he connected. Frazier at his peak was an excellent fighter, but also a stubborn fighter, who could be goaded into fighting his opponent’s fight. If both are at their peak it’s a 50/50 fight for me.

    That said the Frazier that fought Foreman would get crushed by Ingo. Frazier was out of shape and didn’t take Foreman seriously.
     
  13. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier would go down but would KO him by round 4.
     
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  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't see Johanson even being in a position to knock Frazier down.
    Seems as everyone has the opnion of "well Bonavena knocked Frazier down, every fighter with a good right hand would do the same". Opnion.
    But Bonavena was a totally awkward, and very physical. Johanson was never that. He was more of a classic boxer.
    Frazier would be able to keep Johanson from getting the leverage with his right hand necessary to seriously hurt him. He'd be in a defensive posture until a left hook landed cleanly.
    Frazier Ko's Johanson with in five rds.
    Pretty easy fight for Joe.
     
  15. nyterpfan

    nyterpfan Active Member Full Member

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    Simply put--Joe DETONATES Johannson--a demolition within 4-5 rounds at the most!!
     
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