Joe Frazier vs Sugar God Valuev?

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  1. El Hans

    El Hans Member banned Full Member

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    Not a joke title SRS question argue how Joe would even get to Valuev when the only ones that beat him walked circles throwing nothing we all know Joe won't do that.
     
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  2. El Hans

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    God is Seven foot with an 85inch reach and weighs 150kg I just don't see how Frazier could take this.
     
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  3. Golden_Feather99

    Golden_Feather99 Active Member Full Member

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    Here's what we know


    # of times Valuev was dropped: 0
    # of times Frazier was dropped: 11

    Valuev scored 34 knockouts
    Frazier scored 27 knockouts

    Valuev was Russian
    Frazier was American

    Valuev weighed ~320 lbs
    Frazier weighed ~205 lbs

    Valuev was 7'0
    Frazier was 5'11

    Valuev was known for his sharp jab, speed, combination punching, and lateral movement. Hence the nickname "Sugar"
    Frazier was known for his constant pressure and indulgence in tobacco. Hence the nickname "Smokin"

    I say Valuev uses his ATG jab to keep Frazier at bay. He uses his superior speed and timing to catch Frazier when he tries to get close. Just potshot all night long. Frazier can't hurt Valuev because as I stated earlier, Valuev was never floored in his entire career. And Valuev scored more KOs. So that indicates he possessed more power. I just don't see Frazier having any success here. He was a great champion but I guess they all fade next to Sugar Valuev.

    Final prediction: Valuev KO1 or UD (depending on his mood)
     
  4. El Hans

    El Hans Member banned Full Member

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    You sir are doing Gods work
    Saint Primo bless you.
     
  5. 2piece

    2piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier would smash Valuev's organs with his body punching, he wins by KO by body shots in the 11th round.
     
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  6. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valuev reached the highest ceiling that a SHW boxer could possibly attain. In fact a new SHW sub-division consisting solely of Sugar Nikolai was created- The Super Duper Heavyweight Class.

    This is David vs Goliath all over again except this time Goliath is armed with two bazookas against Davids pebble and slingshot.

    Look for SNV to control range with his movement and pin point jab. Frazier will throw the vaunted left hook but Valuev will be in another hemisphere before it arrives thus rendering it obsolete. Al the while Sugar keeps piling in jabs and pinpoint 10 punch combinations.

    Another poster said Valuev could end this in one which though true wasn't Nikolai's style. He was the consummate showman who often prolonged his fights to give the punters more bang for their buck. He'd clown, shoeshine, unleash the Valuev shuffle, mug to his adoring fans before lowering the boom on a gutsy but battered Joe in about R5.
     
  7. Golden_Feather99

    Golden_Feather99 Active Member Full Member

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    Go back to general kid.
     
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  8. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frazier gets inside the Neanderthal and tenderises him with hooks to the body. Chewbacca throws telegraphed punches that Helen Keller can see from a mile off,which Frazier bobs and weaves.The abominable one doesnt land anything worth shaking a hairy paw at. Frazier TKO 10.
     
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  9. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Smoking joe without doubts..
    Who has valuev beaten clearly?
    He robbed old holy and old Donald.
    Valuev is OVERRATED
     
  10. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Sugar beats Smoke.

    Praise be Saint Primo, peace be upon him.
     
  11. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Frazier would pound away at the big fella , like Balboa slammed in to the meat in the slaughter house !!
    Frazier by decision and valuev s body would ach for a month .
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazoier on points or by late round stoppage, that body of Valuev is a big target.. Valuev is very slow and stationary. His skills are quite basic.
     
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    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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  14. El Hans

    El Hans Member banned Full Member

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    Saint Primo!
    You are an ignorant one.
     
  15. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who did he beat clearly ignorant ?
    past prime Barrett? Beck?Ettiene?Liakhovich?
    Poor summary..
    He clearly lost with past prime donald and grandpa holy
    LOL