Joe Frazier vs Zhilei Zhang

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Who wins ?

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  1. Zhang is too big and too strong

    60.9%
  2. Frazier grinds him down

    39.1%
  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is Zhang too big for the classic icon
     
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  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Too big. That's like Isaac Frost vs Joe Frazier in Fight Night Champion.
     
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  3. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Times are changing, Zhang stops Frazier in late rounds after a good fight...
     
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  4. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    Frazier would have thought he had entered the ring with an alien. Not only is Zhang "too big and too strong", he is also a southpaw. For Frazier, this would be an insurmountable obstacle, and there would be no need at all for Zhang to press Frazier's neck down to wear him down (as part of the gameplan).
    Zhang wins one way or another.
     
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  5. Thunderstorm

    Thunderstorm Active Member Full Member

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    Zhang too big and strong for small frazier
     
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  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Zhang KOd Joyce becaue of his predictable pattern

    Frazier also had a very very very predictable pattern too.
     
  7. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier. He knew how to close the distance on taller guys, since about everyone was taller than him.
     
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  8. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Southpaw means double the distance. Frazier didnt have fast feet nor did he have a good straight right hand for the job.
    You would need atleast one of those, mike tyson i could see surmounting the size gap, slipping one or two shots on the way in and unleashing his explosive two fisted combinations up close against the modern Giants.
    Frazier? Not so much. Too much reach and weight to give up for a "grinder"
    "Workman" type fighter.
     
  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    5'10" 210 pounds Vs 290 pounds 6'6"

    Yeah.

    Invunerable to bodyshots

    What's Lil joe gonna do? headhunt bob and weave for 12? lol...even though Zhang has poor stamina Lil Joe ain't gonna make him blink.
     
  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    5'11.5" and 229lb actually. More than enough to inflict damage
     
  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    ooof serious copium.
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was his bob & weave that helped him close the distance. If it were 1 on 1 basketball, i'd pick Zhang all day.
     
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  13. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't trust any man that big with questionable stamina to beat Frazier. Zhang has the power to hurt Frazier, but it's incredibly difficult for a fighter his style. This is not the physical and powerful Foreman here, who manhandled frazier and pushed him away and hit him with possibly even harder shots than Zhang would, Zhang is a technician and shies away from that.

    Frazier's crouching style, which made him an even lower target, made him far harder for the taller Ali to tag in FOTC. The even taller Zhang would have it even harder, and he is not half as fast or as good as Ali was. Him being a southpaw doesn't really help here either, all it does is make his right flank exposed to a Frazier left hook, and if Ali couldn't keep Frazier away and deal with his pressure, Zhang sure as hell can't either. The big, dumb, slow, plodding and defensively irresponsible Joyce isn't the fast pressuring, explosive and erratic Frazier. Joyce is just a case of a big, strong, durable and crude fighter overwhelming some of the worst contenders the division has seen in the modern era. Zhang deserves credit for the win, and for proving himself as a good fighter by beating him in such a manner, but let's not act as if this is an all time great win here.

    Zhang would attempt to keep him away and hit him with hard shots from a distance, Frazier's bobbing and weaving would help him avoid those shots, then Frazier would close the distance and pound the body, and Zhang would surely gas much more quickly. Then Frazier would slowly break him down with power shots, I say Frazier by mid to late round stoppage. Maybe Zhang is durable enough to last the fight, but I have a very hard time seeing him win here.
     
  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Smokin Joe Frazier turns his flabby side into beef chow mien and stops him in the 13th round,, if Zhang makes it that far.
     
  15. Reinhardt

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    Never fails on forum, Joshua wins a couple fights and then he'll beat Ali, Foreman ,Holmes and Tyson. Usyk has 17 pro fights and he's now an alltime great .Joyce beats Parker and now he'd beat Foreman and Liston. Zhang wins against a 38 year old he 's already beaten who hasn't got 20 fights under his belt and he'll take out Frazier and Ali,,,,,,Casuals, casuals, casuals.
     
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