Joe frazier was better than marciano in everything

Being verry highly probable is not enough to make something a fact.

It has to be something that has already happened to be a fact.

The things you have listed, have never happened, and never will.

I also question whether they are even verry probable.

 

A fact according to who.....I like Walcott over Big George Foreman and Walcott may be a very tough fight for Frazier, I am not so sure Frazier would be undefeated in that tough experienced era....Foreman may have raped Frazier but he came close to getting stopped by Lyle the 1st puncher he faced and Lyle was not in the class of Marciano as a puncher

 

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His style was very predictable... His opponents simply didn't have the youthfulness nor the physical tools to take advantage of it.... Walcott kept him at bay for 12 rounds, while picking out his flaws, but saw that he was still coming forward... Had he been 4 years younger, with a slightly harder punch, it wouldn't even be an issue..

 

walcott beat an ATG to become champion. He may have been older than rocky but his form was great at the time he fought marciano. walcott had many tools. where is the footage of walcott looking beter 4 years before?

slightly harder punch? walcott iced durable fighters. His one punch Ko of charles was chilling, you dont need to hit any harder than that. fact is walcott could generate substantial concusive power.

as for walcott keeping marciano at bey, well I think you need to reveiw the fight. walcott was under the cosh winnning rounds - fighting for his life! truth is it was a hard war that was taking more out of the guy in front. marciano was begining to make an impresion on joe when he was blinded for a round or so. if walcott was 4 years younger his corner may not have resorted to using the blinding substance to stall marciano. then the issue would be if joe could maintain the pace that was barly keeping marciano off anyway.

charles was 2 years older than marciano and had only been KO'd by walcott as a heavyweight - a guy he beat twice and almost beat a 3rd time. Charles had phycical tools and youth. Moore was an ATG and having his career peak when matched with marciano.

 

no but they both found georges chin, and all hurt him at close range. close range being where rocky was most dangerous (in case you want to watch him) lyle even hurt george early in the fight, without geting him tired.

ali and young got george tired. they did not beat him with footwork, dancing or fighting at long range. watch the fights reach and weight was never an issue.

if he won those fights with his big punching would his depresion come into it? i bet buster douglas was prety depressed when his mother died just before the tyson fight...

and yet in his very next fight this pre prime Ali wins the title against liston? you think marciano knocks out the ali cooper decked but not the ali of one fight later? haha, you just said "marciano would ko ali" even I wouldnt go so far myself so I still disagree with you!!

 

Marciano hit harder with either hand, Frazier is known for left hook cause it is almost all he ever threw. Marciano had better chin by far, more stamina. If Ali does not fight Frazier, and frazier goes on to lose to Foreman, he is forgoten fighter. He was great, but why the Marciano comaprisons? He was an inch taller and 15 pounds heavier--so what?

 

So based on this increased size logic the Klitschko's are the two greatest fighters ever. & no other Heavy's stand a chance because they are too small. Heavyweight history has plenty of examples of smaller men beating much larger opponents. With much wider weight differentials than between Marciano & Frazier. Not sure who would win, but the size difference would be minimal & not really factor much into the outcome.

 

Don't think you were getting Hank's point. He was saying exactly what you're saying.

 

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