Joe Frazier: Where Do You Rate Him?

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  1. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sonny Liston = Overrated
     
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  2. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I put Frazier as one of the great heavyweights, certainly top 15. I have trouble saying whether he's in the middle third of the top fifteen, or in the lower third.
     
    guilalah, Nov 23, 2010
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, I have it

    7 Liston
    8 Tyson
    9 Frazier


    And of course, since this is not an exact activity, he could be 7 - 9.
     
    cuchulain, Nov 23, 2010
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  4. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    #1. Muhammad Ali
    #2. Joe Louis
    #3. Larry Holmes
    #4. Lennox Lewis
    #5. Sonny Liston
    #6. George Foreman
    #7. Evander Holyfield
    #8. Rocky Marciano
    #9. Mike Tyson
    #10. Jack Dempsey
     
    tommygun711, Nov 23, 2010
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  5. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Why have Marciano so low?
     
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  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm still working out exact numbers, but as far as groupings, I'd have Frazier above Liston and below Dempsey. Trying to split hairs about how he should stack up ranking-wise against Tyson, Holyfield, and Lewis at the moment.
     
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  7. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    because on acomplishments alone I think he ranks higher
    head to head I don't think he would be able to beat those I have ahead of him, although I could swap him with holyfield, I don't think he could beat any of the guys I have ahead of him.
     
    tommygun711, Nov 23, 2010
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  8. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Personally I don't include H2H in my Greatness rankings.

    I have Marciano at #3.
     
    Kalasinn, Nov 23, 2010
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Marciano is weird. Anything between 3 and 12 is OK by me. I think I had him at #8 last time.
     
    McGrain, Nov 23, 2010
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  10. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hell, I don't know; rating fighters this way is silly. All I know is the man is the living definition of the word "fighter." He was the essence.

    That should be good enough for anyone.
     
    salsanchezfan, Nov 23, 2010
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  11. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    that explains it :good
    Ranking H2H would have certain fighters high, others low
     
    tommygun711, Nov 23, 2010
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  12. combatesdeboxeo

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    WELL...FOREMAN IS ABOVE LEWIS AND LISTON HANDS DOWN, ACCORDING TO HIS CAREER LISTON IS NOT TOP 10 HW, SIMPLE.AND HOLMES ABOVE FOREMAN IS DEBATABLE BECAUSE TO BE THE OLDEST HW CHAMPION, TO DESTROY UNDEFEATED FRAZIER AND PRIME NORTON IN 2 ROUNDS IS A A GREATER THING THAN TO DO SEVERAL DEFENSES AGAINST TOMATO CANS OR AVERAGE BOXERS LIKE BERBICK, OCCASIO, WEAVER, TEX,PAST PRIME NORTON, PAST PRIME SHAVERS,SMITH,MARVIS FRAZIER..
    JOE FRAZIER IS ABOVE DEMPSEY

    JOE FRAZIER IS ABOVE LISTON,TYSON AND DEMPSEY FOR SURE.
    JIM JEFRIES IS ABOVE LISTON AND TYSON.
    AND WHERE IS JACK JOHNSON?:admin
     
    combatesdeboxeo, Nov 23, 2010
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  13. mister

    mister Active Member Full Member

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    frazier would not even be in my top 100,:think
     
    mister, Nov 23, 2010
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  14. combatesdeboxeo

    combatesdeboxeo Guest

    YOU ARE IN MY TOP 5 IGNORAMUSES FOR SURE :deal
     
    combatesdeboxeo, Nov 23, 2010
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  15. mister

    mister Active Member Full Member

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    what are you talking about,i dont know you have you read my posts why are you attacking my highly respected boxing knowledge,why dont you make an observation of my post and make some sort of rebuttal:think
     
    mister, Nov 23, 2010
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