Joe Frazier: Where Do You Rate Him?

Sonny Liston = Overrated

 

I put Frazier as one of the great heavyweights, certainly top 15. I have trouble saying whether he's in the middle third of the top fifteen, or in the lower third.

 

Yes, I have it

7 Liston
8 Tyson
9 Frazier


And of course, since this is not an exact activity, he could be 7 - 9.

 

#1. Muhammad Ali
#2. Joe Louis
#3. Larry Holmes
#4. Lennox Lewis
#5. Sonny Liston
#6. George Foreman
#7. Evander Holyfield
#8. Rocky Marciano
#9. Mike Tyson
#10. Jack Dempsey

 

Why have Marciano so low?

 

I'm still working out exact numbers, but as far as groupings, I'd have Frazier above Liston and below Dempsey. Trying to split hairs about how he should stack up ranking-wise against Tyson, Holyfield, and Lewis at the moment.

 

because on acomplishments alone I think he ranks higher
head to head I don't think he would be able to beat those I have ahead of him, although I could swap him with holyfield, I don't think he could beat any of the guys I have ahead of him.

 

Personally I don't include H2H in my Greatness rankings.

I have Marciano at #3.

 

Hell, I don't know; rating fighters this way is silly. All I know is the man is the living definition of the word "fighter." He was the essence.

That should be good enough for anyone.

 

that explains it :good
Ranking H2H would have certain fighters high, others low

 

WELL...FOREMAN IS ABOVE LEWIS AND LISTON HANDS DOWN, ACCORDING TO HIS CAREER LISTON IS NOT TOP 10 HW, SIMPLE.AND HOLMES ABOVE FOREMAN IS DEBATABLE BECAUSE TO BE THE OLDEST HW CHAMPION, TO DESTROY UNDEFEATED FRAZIER AND PRIME NORTON IN 2 ROUNDS IS A A GREATER THING THAN TO DO SEVERAL DEFENSES AGAINST TOMATO CANS OR AVERAGE BOXERS LIKE BERBICK, OCCASIO, WEAVER, TEX,PAST PRIME NORTON, PAST PRIME SHAVERS,SMITH,MARVIS FRAZIER..
JOE FRAZIER IS ABOVE DEMPSEY

JOE FRAZIER IS ABOVE LISTON,TYSON AND DEMPSEY FOR SURE.
JIM JEFRIES IS ABOVE LISTON AND TYSON.
AND WHERE IS JACK JOHNSON?:admin

 

frazier would not even be in my top 100,:think

 

YOU ARE IN MY TOP 5 IGNORAMUSES FOR SURE :deal

 

what are you talking about,i dont know you have you read my posts why are you attacking my highly respected boxing knowledge,why dont you make an observation of my post and make some sort of rebuttal:think