Joe Frazier...who could have outpointed him?

Walcott was also 15 when he first started, dumbass. Putting on muscle also exists. Walcott faced Marciano head on early on. So did Vingo, so did Layne, so did Bearnie Reynolds, so did many.

I have never, in my entire life, implied that the average heavyweight doesn't hit harder than the average light weight/welterweight/middleweight/ whatever. I've stated 2 things:

1. There are genetic freaks that are the exception to this rule. This is undeniable fact. Shavers hit harder than Foreman. Morrison hit harder than Lewis. Dempsey hit harder than Louis. Genetic freaks.

2. Size gives diminishing returns. Eventually weight means less and less as proportions take effect, and human biomechanics limit yourself.

 

Genetic freaks, like they come every 5-10 years? Who could catch up with Shavers and Foreman?

Now I know why these 185-genetic-freaks ruled the 60s,70s,80s,90s,00s Heavyweight Devision! Thats why we saw them rule the bigger men with their genetic freakness, right?
Of course that genetic freaks do only exist up to 190 pounds, the boxers above aren´t. They are just normal, they don´t have genetics. Thats why Dempsey and Rocky got as much power as Lewis, Foreman and Wlad.

I like that. We have add that to the retro Marcianista brain-virus synonyme list, which I think is very important.

We should tell the doctor too that George Foreman or Lennox Lewis would unload 49 punches on an absolute defenseless Jess Willard, standing over him, with Willard making it round 2. He´d like that.

 

That was so stupid and strawmanning that it doesnt even deserve a response. We all know what Dempsey did to Willard. I never said Dempsey hit harder than Foreman or Lewis. And I never said that the genetic freaks are only at 185. May God have pity on you

 

Ali
Lewis
Holmes
Holyfield
Bowe

Wlad has the skills but he'd get clipped on that china sooner or later, Vitali has a chance but I'd still pick Joe to win.

 

Carl Williams! If he didn't get caught with the left hook .