joe Frazier's hatred of Ali justified?

it is justified

should he let it go i dont i am not sure if a could

 

I think it was justified. Frazier helped Ali get back into the fight business and lent him money, then Ali turns around and is the harshest verbally on Frazier than he ever was to anybody and torments him with things that were just flat out over the line. Calling Frazier an Uncle Tom was too far. Calling him a gorrilla was borderline. Ali's antics caused Frazier's kids to be made fun of in school. Things like that all combined will create a seriously angry person, and for good reason.

As for Frazier dropping it by now, I'm still sort of borderline. I guess he shouldn't still resent him the way he does, but he has every right to remain bitter.

 

Hell yes..... To be called an "uncle Tom",by Ali, was damn mean,of Ali...Especially when Joe Frazier,a truly nice guy, befriended Ali, when Clay was just starting out...Picture the classy and dignified Joe Louis, spouting such verbal garbage.....Louis had CLASS....I first saw the then Clay, in the Golden Gloves finals, 1960 at MSG..The next time I watched Ali fight Joe Frazier, 1971,at MSG....What a night, and was I thrilled when Joe Frazier, beat Ali soundly....Yes score one for the good guys.......

 

While I don't necessarily think it's the healthiest thing for Joe to still be spiteful, I can't say that the man doesn't have legit reason to remain so.

 

My thoughts as well.

 

Is it justified?

Perhaps.

Should he let it go?

Absolutely.

It is not doing him any good apart from anything else.

 

Justified?

Yes.

Let it go??

Up to him. Ali did do some hurtful things to Frazier.

 

black people who call others 'uncle tom' don't know what they're talking about. uncle tom was a stronger man than those who use his name to demean other blacks.

 

Leave Frazier alone about this ****...is Ali some deity or something? Frazier took the verbal ****...and took it and took it..he wasn't a verbal type person to begin with, and he took Ali's abuse in punishment in the ring, as well as dishing it out pretty good himself.
It's his damned business whether to forgive or not...and it's pretty easy for everyone concerned to insist that he let it go..

 

Ali treated Frazier dreadful should he let it go it is up to him, it is part of life that we sometimes just don't like someone. As an aside on a head to head basis I see Frazier ahead of Ali just slightly, I have always thought that if the ref had not let Ali hang on how he did in the two later fights that Frazier would have won and stopped Ali not really through a knock out but by exhaustion.

 

I agree completely with red cobra.

Personally if I was Frazier, I must admit that i'd probably hold deep hatred towards Ali till the day I died. Besides I don't think it's as strong as it once was, notice that Frazier is on the brink of tears when he talks of Ali's current condition in "Facing Ali" and says he wishes that Ali could live a normal life like the rest of us.

 

I just watched Facing Ali the other day. It was brilliant. Frazier still feels pain by the whole Ali situation, but he seems to be trying to come to terms with his feelings.