Joe Frazier's resume is underrated

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It all sounds fun, but Sharkey and Schmeling were better fighters than Walcott. What makes you believe that Walcott is better than them?
     
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  2. DanDaly

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    Norton would beat all 4 of those guys.
     
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  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's your opinion. I disagree.
     
  4. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sharkey and schmeling combined are not as good as jersey joe walcott
     
  5. DanDaly

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    Sharkey and Walcott certainly lose. Norton's style is horrible for Sharkey and Walcott picked up a loss from practically ever good fighter he fought.

    Baer has a punchers chance but would not be the favorite. More than likely gets outboxed like Schmeling.
     
  6. 70sFan865

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    It's at least arguable who would win and most of names mentioned have better careers than Norton.
     
  7. DanDaly

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    I'll agree with that however I don't think any of these guys would be the favorite. As far as consistency goes Norton was much better than any of them.
     
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  8. Johnny_B

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    He's nowhere near the top 10. He ranks 11-15th.

    No, they are not.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

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    11 isn't close to 10? News to me.
    Which of them has a win as good as Ali?
     
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  10. Johnny_B

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    It might be close, but it's not top 10.

    It's not just about 1 win. Norton also has a win over Ali, that does not mean he's top 10.
    It's not just 1 bout, but one's career as a whole. Plus his impact on the sport.

    Ali, Louis, Holmes, Lewis, Tyson, Foreman, Liston, W.K, Marciano, Fury, Dempsey, Johnson, Holyfield - all have had better careers than Frazier.
     
  11. George Crowcroft

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    You literally said "he is nowhere near top 10, he's 11-15". 11 is near 10.
    You reply to:"Frazier's wins are better than Holmes, Tyson, Marciano, Dempsey, and many others."

    With: "No, they are not."

    Frazier's #1 win pisses all over any of there's. Aside from Holmes and maybe Marciano, so does his top 3. Aside from that he has the better résumé than all of them.
    :lol:
    Johnson, Fury and Dempsey? :lol: get real.
     
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  12. Johnny_B

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    You're obviously a Frazier fan, but the fact is he only has 1 win over a slightly passed his prime Ali. It's a good win, but not enough to make him a top 10 HW.
    He doesn't have enough titles defenses or a good enough resume.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

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    He has a good résumé.

    Ali, Quarry 2*, Ellis 2*, Bonavena 2*, Mathis, Machen, Chuvalo and Foster is an exceptional résumé. Definitely better than the likes of Johnson, Tyson, Liston and Marciano.
     
  14. Johnny_B

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    Apart from Ali, neither of those were world class boxers. Some of them were good/decent, but definitely not better than what Tyson faced.
    Tyson would have destroyed all of them on the same night.
    And Frazier ain't got many title defenses or fights.
     
  15. 70sFan865

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    No he wouldn't.
     
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