Joe Gans vs. Benny Leonard

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Who would have won? Gans or Leonard?

  1. Gans via stoppage

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  2. Gans on points

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  3. Leonard via stoppage

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  4. Leonard on points

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  5. Split decision either way or draw. Too close to call.

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Joe Gans vs. Benny Leonard

    Rules:

    20x20 ring
    1910-1915 style officiating
    10 point must system
    15 rounds

    Gans has the edge on power with a 2-inch height and reach advantage. Leonard has the edge on footwork, defense, and speed.
     
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  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Love Gans and maybe this is because there is more film on Leonard but I'm going to have to choose Benny. He was damn near unbeatable at his best. This would be as about as good a matchup as one could imagine.
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Gans was more exciting to watch, but Leonard had a near flawless style that mixed footwork, speed, and smarts, plus he was tough as nails.

    Leonard had no color line, and pretty much beat the best of his times.

    I'd pick Leonard via decision, 9-6 or 10-5 with Gans losing a few of the rounds by close margin.
     
  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think Gans would win a longer one, but at 15 rounds, I'll pick Benny.
     
  5. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I'd have to agree with Seamus on the Benny prediction. This is really one of the ATG fantasy bouts.
     
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  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I'm curious, would you guys also pick Benny if it was to be scheduled for 45 rounds?
     
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  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    It says 15 rounds..I try an stick to the question itself especially after the recent Duran Benitez debacle
     
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  9. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    No, I wouldn't.
    Gans would be a clearer favourite in my view.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    If I made it 20 rounds I'd still the Leonard. Not one pick for Gans so far on the poll? A tad surprising.
     
  11. Seamus

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    Honestly I don't have a great argument against Gans. We are talking about 2 of the Top 10 ever boxers here... Could just depend on the day. I wish there was more film on Gans. He was so... What's the word everyone hates?... Oh, Modern.
     
  12. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think he looks good, but I think he fights in a pretty different way from a modern boxer.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Old Master vs The Ghetto Wizard

    I got Leonard sticking and moving to a UD over 15, I think he pumps his jab and backpedals whilst knowing not to get inclose with Gans, who does have the power to land in Leonard and have him in trouble. I think Benny would have Gans's stiff arms and uppercuts timed and would be able to steer himself away from any overhands or grappling Gans tries to employ

    Leonard has one of the best pfp pfp jabs I've ever seen I think he frustrates Joe and uses footwork to outmanoeuvre the Old Master

    Leonard UD15
     
  14. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I don't know enough about Gans. Was he quick enough to cut the ring off? Remember Benny could punch too so he couldn't be careless.
    I'll pick Leonard because I just have more info/film. Benny Leonard is one of those boxers that looks better than the legend of the myth when the film of him came out.
     
  15. Rainer

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    I'm inclined to agree with this.
     
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