I wasn´t asked but I answer nevertheless. I consider Jeanette the "worst" of those three. I think Gunboat Smith deserves to be ranked with them and ahead of Jeanette too. But that´s just me.
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"Clay, Would you rate Langford and/or McVey ahead of Jeanette, or do you consider the three pretty much on par?" I definately rate Langford ahead of both McVey and Jeannette, and think it would be very difficult for anyone to dispute that. I'd also be inclined to place Jeannette above McVey.
I would agree with placing Langford above the other two ,and ,on the basis of their fights against a common opponent [Johnson ], I would put Jeanette over McVey. Johnson himself, allways said McVey was the toughest oppoennt of the three for him to face, but there was probably an agenda behind his ranking.
I think Gunboat Smith at his best was on par with Jeanette, McVey, and maybe even Langford. Smith was note a white hope at all. He had ability, and beat other white fighters only to see his victims get title shots from Johnson.. Bodhi, Are you aware of the round ex match between Smith and Johnson, when Johnson was champion? As for the ranking of the top black challengers from 1909-1915, here's my order: 1. Langford 2. Jeanette 3. McVey 4. Clark 5. Jim " battling " Johnson.