Joe Joyce vs Ngannou

Floyd of all ppl gave Francis a shot too.

 

Joyce has a small cut under his left eye, francis looks spotless.

 

But Joyce has the bestest chin in the history or prizefighting or so I am told by the keyboard warriors on here.

Bestest. Chin. Eva.

Not only that but Joyce is also the biggest puncher eva…until Ngannou who is also the bestest puncher eva but maybe not as bestest as Joyce but could be maybe even more powerful. But none are as powerful as Zhang. Zhang is the bestest eva and would KO the true bestest eva Muhammad Ali because he has Chinese power and is very big. Maybe the biggest eva.

This forum is a joke at times. In reality Joyce is no good but he’d likely beat Ngannou pretty easily.

 

Ngannou KO's him. Joyce after Zhang is half done.

 

1 tiny cur doesn't indicate who was winning the session

 

Francis looks happy smiling ear to ear . i dont put much weight on a trainer’s word. they are bias already. release the tape let us see.

 

You shouldn't put much weight in a tiny cut considering boxing history either if thats the way it is. I know of no tape, only witnesses from what I can see

 

Lets not get carried away, Ngannou never won a pro boxing fight, he remains unproven.

Otherwise, he fights nothing like Zhang, his style resembles Parker and Dubois much more than Zhang.

People love to ride the hype.

Joyce needs to get his confidence back, but he probably beats Ngannou, IMO.

 

Joyce mager yes of course i would gold mine and big opportunity where you would still be even odds in betting line and actualy the favorite .

Ngannou manager I would be taking bigger name and probably wouldnt go for this unless it is part of some deal what leads to big money but would still try to find another way.

 

It depends how Joyce takes Ngannou punches.

In the long fight Ngannou doesn't have a chance.

His stamina is questionable, he breathed heavily against Fury in the middle rounds and the only reason he did fine in the later rounds is that the fight was tactical and very slow-paced.

JJ on the other hand has one of the best workrates in HW history, great stamina and he throws enormous amount of punches.

If JJ takes Ngannou shots well, he knocks Francis out late in the fight.

 

Did you read the actual quote I posted which came directly from Joyce himself that Ngannou was landing wicked blows on him in that session? Literally from the horses mouth.

 

No because i never replied to you. He was referring to his power if you haven't noticed. Tell us something we don't know. He himself said "Ngannou hits heavy if he can land a shot on you". He never said Ngannou bested him in sparring. How many hard punching spar stories have we heard ?

 

"If JJ takes Ngannou shots well, he knocks Francis out late in the fight."

And if he doesn't, he gets KO'd early.

He wasn't taking Zhang's punches well in the rematch. Does Zhang punch harder than Ngannou? There's a good chance he doesn't.

Ngannou's massive and Joyce has been dependent on a size advantage. The first time he didn't have that, he got stopped twice in the first half. By a guy who had questionably stamina.

Ngannou can fight southpaw, probably due to the fact that stance switching is more common in MMA. Joyce struggled badly to land his jab on southpaw Zhang, he admitted the stance was a significant problem for him. And aside from the tactical side, how will he cope mentally with Ngannou going southpaw?

He's slower than Ngannou, of hand and foot.

Ngannou told Takam that he didn't regard Joyce as being "dangerous".

Joyce is 38+ and has had a career taking heavy punishment, currently on a two KO loss streak. I think he gets blasted out.

 

Mainly comes down to if Ngannous gas tank holds up. He managed it well in the Fury fight but Fury doesnt bring anywhere near the pressure and volume that Joyce does. If he can stay relatively fresh he can handle Joyces power I think, but if he starts gassing out Joyce will eventually overwhelm him. Theres also the question of if Joes chin has been cracked now after those Zhang fights, if it has hes going in there with another big strong guy with big punching power and a speed advantage.

Doubt Ngannou would be interested in that fight anyway unless they offered him big money. Joyce is a high risk/low reward kind of fight.

 

"Fury doesnt bring anywhere near the pressure and volume that Joyce does"

Joyce hasn't shown much ability to sustain pressure against a good big man and he looked terrified of being hit in the Zhang rematch (not that it did him much good). He's also vastly easier to hit and hit with full force than Fury, who is always using his extremely long range, jabbing, feinting, moving, clinching, sometimes switching stances.

"Joyce is a high risk/low reward kind of fight."

Maybe. He's top 10 ranked though, a reasonably large name and stylistically seems a good matchup, who may well be shot. Warren has already suggested him too.