Joe Louis 1936 v Muhammad Ali 1971

If Louis trained right, which he apparently didn;t do for Max S in '36, but surely would have done for Ali as Ali would be percived as a greater threat than Max was, I pick Joe - and quite possibly by a stoppage.

 

I'm going with 1971 Ali over the Louis who got beat by Schmeling. At this point, Muhammad Ali had at least been in the ring with Joe Frazier, Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson. Louis had not faced anyone of those talent levels, and when he makes the same mistake of lowering his guard everytime he goes to throw a jab, Ali would be there to make him pay for it as Schmeling did.

 

Louis would probably lose the first match (If he gets "addicted" to golf again), but win the next two fights in the trilogy.

If he fights against Ali after the frazier fight, he can maybe win all three fights.As it points out all the weaknesses in Ali his style.
And unlike frazier, Louis wasn't blind in the left eye.

Louis was good at adapting, probably needs a first match to find a way how to get Ali.
Ali had his flaws and Louis would exploit them.

 

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Interesting read.

 

If you watch the first Ali Frazier fight you see Joe had no great problem landing his hook on Ali. Issue with Frazier is he was all hook. Certainly if Frazier had a right hand equal to his hook Ali would have been stopped...especially in round 10 when he had Ali out on his feet and staggering all over the ring. If you watch young Louis you will see he could do it all. Against Ramage he bobbed and weaves landing quick counters as he slips and ducks his way inside, against Baer he deftly side steps around his opponent jabbing and countering while avoiding shots, against Ettore he handles a bobbing and weaving fighter. 1936 Louis hits Ali with his hook easier than Frazier and follows it up with killer combinations. I won't say that Louis knocks him out since I believe Ali would find a way to survive. In process he takes a bad beating with Louis winning over an ever retreating Ali by U decision.

 

What a great thread!..With Ali always throughout his career was always prone to get caught with that left hook,..Ex, Frazier, Cooper...I think this fight would be Ali eating that lead left hook all night and Louis eating lightning fast jabs all night...this is a toughy but I say Ali by decision unless Joe could really get to him.

 

That is true. Ali had a soft spot for the left and Louis threw a mean one.

 

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Joe Louis a 'two-fisted punching machine', not a single left hook throwing
Joe Frazier.

Muhammad Ali boxes well thru 7-Rounds, and has a nice-egde on the
Scorecard (5-2-0). But it starts to fall apart in Round 8, and by
late in Round 10, Muhammad is getting pounded in the face by
hard fists.

Joe Louis busts up Muhammad Ali, enroute to a TKO 12.

Joe Louis (1936)

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Hard to imagine Ali being stopped by anyone. Chin of iron, body of iron, iron will. Ali would find a way to get through 15 rounds by lose the nod in a lopsided fight. Prime Ali had the speed to outbox Louis over 15.

 

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most old boxers will get schooled by the young cats, Its simply a game of evolution. For you to be noticed you have to have the skill assest of past boxers, and for you to be great in an era you must bring a new skill or dynamic to the sport

 

Tox...you could not be more wrong. Spend an hour on YouTube watching Louis fight. No fighter today shows that level of ability. Combination punching alone Louis has no peer. Great talents would shine in any era.