Joe louis and the bum of the month club

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Twelve tears is a pretty long era. Most didn't think Godoy had won.
    "Louis won sloppily against a bruising, mauling and rushing fighter who knew no fear or retreat." The New York Times
    The only rounds in which the three agreed were the 3rd, 8th (both to Godoy) and the 14th (Louis). Lecron had it 10-4-1 in rounds for Louis. Godoy thought he was entitled to a draw but the New York Times reported the decision as "eminently fair" - its reporter giving it 10-5 to Louis, stating that other reporters had a similar result." Have you seen the complete version of the first Louis v Walcott fight ? I ask because I don't believe there is anyone living who has and, if you haven't ,I don't see how, just forming your opinion from highlights ,you can call it a robbery.
     
  2. mcvey

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    Franklin was beaten by :
    Eddie Simms twice, once by ko. Louis kod Simms in 1 round
    Tony Musto . Louis kod Musto in9rounds
    Gus Dorazio .Louis kod Dorazio in2 rounds
    Bob Pastor by ko. Louis kod Pastor in 11 rounds
     
  3. Glass City Cobra

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    Who were all these black contenders he didnt fight?
     
  4. Titan1

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    Yeah, Lem lost a few fights, but, in that era, it was a plus. He would still give Joe a good fight. Jersey Joe lost a few, but look what happened when he fought Joe.
     
  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Which "bums" and in which other eras would they have been champions?
     
  6. janitor

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    Let's start with the obvious.

    If Joe Louis had fallen under the wheels of a Model T Ford, before his boxing career, then somebody would have had to be champion in that twelve year span.

    Now let's apply the question conservatively, and look at the adjacent eras.

    Is it far fetched to imagine that some of Louis's challengers, could have been champion in the mid 30s, or the early 50s?
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Sorry, I was asking which members of the “Bum of the Month” club you thought would’ve been champions in other eras.
     
  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Hagiographer Full Member

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    Well since he was a top contender, while future champion Jersey Joe Walcott was a journeyman, and given Walcott didn't improve at all. One has to conclude that Tony Galento would have been champion if he'd been in his prime once the competition level regressed.
     
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  9. janitor

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    The detractors of that era are often a little bit confused.

    They set so many hares running, that they end up contradicting themselves.
     
  10. janitor

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    I don't think that it is far fetched to think that Farr, Pastor, Godoy, Conn or Nova, could have lifted the title in a weak era.

    I am not saying that they would necessarily, but they were obviously good enough.
     
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  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Walcott wasn't a member of the bum of the month club though, and I don't follow why we have to conclude that Galento would have been champion in any era.
     
  12. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Ok, got it. But that seems to be a far more modest claim than your original statement, that some of them would have been champions in other eras.
     
  13. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. Even John Henry Lewis (A Joe Louis 1st round victim) would have had a real shot at being champ on the right night, with the right Champion across from him.
     
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  14. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Hagiographer Full Member

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    You seriously misread my post
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Oh, I did misread it. My bad.
     
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