Joe Louis: can we be honest with ourselves?

And what did they say besides Boo Hiss? Nothing at all that dispels what I initially wrote. You can't seem to grasp that.

I do think Louis was a great one but also overrated and far more suspect than acknowledged vs the better fighters he meet.

You are a Louis fanboy. It's okay to admit it. Louis has lots of fans! You're attempt here to paint the first Walcott fight differently that the surviving film or people at ringside saw it fits the definition of fanboy.

 

African Americans were not welcome in the army during the times, so perhaps that can explain Thompson? Others had key labor jobs that kept them home.

My grandfather signed up for the navy, but after 2 days of review, the government felt his work as a s**** yard foreman were more important.

 

Everyone who saw the Louis Walcott fight had a 1 round swing.

Baffles my mind how years later, people who have not seen the right will be disingenuous and make up their own result.

 

Joe Louis knocked out the five world heavyweight champions who reigned before him - Sharkey, Schmeling, Carnera, Baer and Braddock - and one of three who followed him - Walcott -- and made 25 successful defenses in his own right.

How is that overrated?

Who has more defenses? Who has knocked out more lineal World Heavyweight champions?

And the two heavyweight champions he didn't knock out (Charles and Marciano) had the hell beat out of them. Look at photos of Ezzard and Rocky's faces after those fights. Louis didn't exactly go out on his stool, like Ali did against Holmes or Tyson against McBride. He went out delivering beatings to two other guys who would dominate the division.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrjL7QQ40E

Louis isn't overrated.

Who was more dominant? If no one was, how could Louis be overrated?

 

louis was 200 lbs, great boxer but too small for modern shw. and don't bring me buddy baer and carnera. even tony tubbs would be a very very hard fight for louis, let alone tyson fury

 

Except the majority of those who had in one swing round had it for Walcott. You make it seem like there was some kind of split across the board. It wasn't. Walcott had the clear majority, along with the ref. What's worse, when reading the summaries of the people who did actual vote for Joe, they did so, because they felt Walcott ran the last 3 rounds. So Joe basically got 3 rounds for himself not doing much other than pushing the action. Never hurt Joe those rounds, nor land anything noted of substance. Walcott was so comfortably outboxing Louis he felt he could take 3 rounds off and coast and still win... guess what.. the majority still felt he won even while giving away the last 3 rounds.

 

So, you win two rounds in every fight you compete in, and get knocked out in the third round - losing all your fights - IN YOUR MIND you're a DOMINANT boxer because you win 66% of the rounds you fight?



If you knock a guy out, you are MORE dominant.

You've stopped him. HE can't go on. Got it?:hi:

Einstein.:roll:

 

Only a complete novice or idiot would claim Louis is overrated. If you know boxing you cannot be unimpressed by that level of skill. Unmatch till this day certainly in the hwt division. Louis skill level was off the charts.

 

So every single scorecard bar one had it a one round victory to either man.

It is the very definition of a close fight.

 

Btw I cannot believe this was at the bottom of the first page, the activity of this site is a bit too high for my liking.

 

Nope, its rounds won to rounds lost in addition to the KO%