Joe Louis (circa 1936) vs David "The Tuaman" Tua (circa 1997) - who wins and why?

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  1. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Tua has been getting a lot of attention in the classic section lately. This probably seems like a mismatch. However, many have previously picked the Tuaman to handily beat the great Jack Dempsey and even liked him in a tougher fight against Marciano. He would have a puncher's chance against Louis but could he actually have kept the great man down if he put him there? Could Louis be the first one in Tua's pro career to really hurt him with headshots to that anvil-like head?

    My prediction - Louis TKO 10 Tua

    The fight is stopped between rounds with Tua's eyes mere slits.
     
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  2. joe33

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    Louis in 10
     
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  3. McGrain

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    Tua has the type of power where he could put anyone down. Is he good enough to put Joe away if he hurts him? Yes. But he didn't put a lot of guys away late, when compared to early. Louis is an example of a fighter who carries his power. I think Louis would win, and I think 10 is a decent prediction.
     
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  4. pugilist_boyd

    pugilist_boyd BUSTED UP PUG Full Member

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    Louis Would Destroy Tua But Not As Quick As Dempsey Would Have The Only One Of The Above Mentioned 3 He Would Have A Good Chance To Beat Would Be Rocky On Cuts.i Dont Care About 10,20,30 Damn Pounds Punching Power Is Punching Power Not Benchpressing Power All 4 Pretty Close To The Same Power But Not Skill Lois Would Dominate And Knock Tua Out By 8-12
     
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  5. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Two-Ton Tony Galento put Louis down with a left hook.

    Tua's hook is even more powerful.

    Louis is a much better fighter overall (obviously), but he would need to be careful early and box Tua.

    Lennox Lewis is much bigger than Joe Louis and pretty much handled Tua with ease.....but was still careful.

    Louis by late TKO or wide UD.
     
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  6. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Louis, by wide UD. Tua might knock Louis down at some point but he'll ultimately be getting pretty thoroughly outboxed over the duration.
     
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  7. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    I think the same but without the knockdown.
    I think if Tua managed to catch Louis he'd put him away, but I don't think he'd be able to catch him.
     
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  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Tua has a punchers chance.

    Against a fighter who has never been taken out by a single punch in 70+ profesional fights half of which were against ranked contenders this is a bit like a snowballs chance in hell.
     
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  9. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I started same thread a while ago. Tua wipes the floor with Louis and finishes him in several rounds. Louis just doesn't have good enough defense or a style to avoid the troubles he'd be facing.
     
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  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Dose Tua have good enough defence to avoid the trouble hes facing?

    Whipes the floor?

    Louis wouldnt be able to miss his chin.

    If you are open to flush combos from Louis you are in trouble however good your chin is. Baer and Uzcdun probably had chins as good as Tuas and look what hapened to them.
     
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  11. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tua has the chin to withstand what Louis has, but Louis doesn't have good defense against counters when he's on the offensive, he was put on his ass several times that way, by fighters who are not even close to Tua's punching power.
     
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  12. Holmes' Jab

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    Beating Dempsey and beating Louis are two different propositions entirely. If I was given a choice at which to fight in a title shot I know which one I'd prefer to take on (it wouldn't be the guy with 20 odd consecutive title defences).
     
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  13. janitor

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  14. Unforgiven

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    Joe Louis wins.
    Because he's an infinitely better boxer than Tua.
     
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  15. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good point.
     
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