joe louis deceptive record?

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  1. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    Im not saying Joe cant fight BUT isnt his career a little over glorified considering that around that era anyone worth their salt was either enlisting in the army, fighting a war or just returned from service in no shape to box..
    I just think he didnt TRULY face the best and brightest athletes the world had to offer at the time..
    the dude COULD fight though!..
     
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  2. sugarkills

    sugarkills Active Member Full Member

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    No, its not.
     
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  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His legacy rests on what he did before WWII.
     
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  4. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    No.
     
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  5. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Rusty Nails.......

    Can you please name ten men, who prematurely ended their boxing careers due to WW2. Having enlisted in the armed forces.... yet, were already well on their way to becoming a respected top 10 contender???? ???? ???? OK... list 5 instead????? ??? Ok... lets try for 3. Just remember, the damage to Joe own record is on par with 10+ defences during his 3 years of inactive title contests..... If anything, Joe is underrated by the 'experts'. No disrespect mate, but the only damage done, was to Joe own career. He was in his prime for Christ sake....
     
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  6. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Go look at the caliber of competition the guy fought before winning the title--he fought all the time and it wasn't against the mr softies. And then go and see how quickly and who he fought > the Schmeling loss.
     
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  7. McGrain

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    This will be one of those threads where you never hear from the thread-starter again...
     
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  8. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    i see where your going, i really do...
    but i just feel if you weigh it up, what did he really achieve? He won the title from an ageing champ with one eye on retirement, he beat baer and a "nazi" whom no one really rates in their top 10 heavies then he defended against alot of nobodies.. dont forget he LOST to schmelling the first time and was rattled badly by conn and 2 tonne!..
    i just reckon if the schmelling fight wasnt so hyped and joe wasnt hoisted into such a lofty symbol of american pride his career and achievements would be held alongside the calibre of larry holmes..
    (no shame in that either!)
     
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  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can make the case he never beat a top20 heavyweight (if you don't rate Walcott/Schmelling in your top 20)

    You can also make the case he got a few gifts

    You can make a case he fought in a weak era

    I don't think the war detracted from the talent pool that much though
     
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  10. teeto

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    His resume is very good imo.
     
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  11. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's hope.
     
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  12. teeto

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    :lol: :lol: :good
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:
     
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  14. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Those ratings would be awful then.

    As much as Ali?

    Ahm, nope, surely not. It´s better than the 20s, 20s, 40s, 80s and today´s division, on par with the 1890s, 50s, 60s and only behind the 1900s, 70s and 90s. Surely not a weak era.

    I agree.
     
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  15. TommyV

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    No, it isn't.

    You suck.

    That is all.
     
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