Joe Louis doc on HBO

Watch the 1970 movie "AKA Cassius Clay", and Ali is superimposed
over "shuffling Joe Louis" on film in the background....and Ali
is jawing about dancing and shuffling, etc.

Of course if Ali got tagged by Louis that the punches that Doug Jones, Henry Cooper, and Frazier landed, then he probably wouldn't have
gotten up.

Ali & Louis were both great fighters, it is all relative in the fans' eyes.

 

I know it can go both ways but luckilyAli did not have to face Joe;s HOOK and combo follow up, there wAS NO ONE aLI FOUGHT WHO HAD lOUIS'S HOOK AND COMBO FOLLOW UP

 

I remember Ali talking that stuff about "shufflin" Joe, and I'll say what I said on a previous recent post, and that's if you look at the filn of Louis against Max Baer in 1934 you'll see Louis as far more mobile at times, actually dancing around Baer before eventually ko'ing him. My point is that Louis may have abandoned that footwork that he was capable of simply because he was so successful in destroying his opponents, and started concentrating on just stalking his prey from then on. Louis was at his best all-around that night against Baer in my opinion.

 

this maybe another thread but

ali is a man of many glaring inconsistancies.....just like my spelling

he seems like the peoples champion then is an arrogant self server who everybody hates
he is a brash talkin saying anything he wants to say then is told doctrines by elijah muhhamad.

even though he was in the N.O.I he still didnt get corrupted by it he kept it "his" version of the N.O.I.
in an interview the guy said somthing on the lines of what you got against white people? he said
"if there were a thousand snakes out there and only 100 were evil ...are you the one to open the door?"

and the thing about the civil rights. nah he was a big big influence he was a proud black man saying he was black champion and promoting black interests...this was the polar opposite of what king was saying. but it made the point that somthign had to change.