joe seemed to have a slow plodding foward style of fighting and it worked quite well for him however in this day and age with all the advanced techniques of bobbing and weaving and not being a sitting duck(just like louis was)how would he fare against the cream of the crop over the last 20 yrs. who would befuddle him with there motion and ability to hit and not be hit?
The Louis of the Baer fight was less slow and plodding...and the problem with Louis was that he was like a cobra or a mamba...one hit and it was over.
why the laughing smile(though appreciated) louis could be beat and history has shown that but how far would his style take him today. styles make for great fights and joe louis had one and that was straight ahead.which would make him a sitting duck say for instance if a young prime tyson exploded on him with his head movements and explosive punching power and placement how would old joe do? and tysons not just the only one who is line to beat louis because of his style.
To ask how Louis' general style would do today, you only have to look at a couple fighters: This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected As you can see standup flat footed boxer-punchers do very well. As for the comments on Louis' style- you just don't know what you're talking about period, come forward fighters like Tyson are the type that he feasted on with accurate counter bombs. The elusive, smaller, iron chinned guys are the ones that gave Louis the most issues. Laughing smiley is appropriate because a thread titled "joe louis easy pickins" is mind numbingly dumb.
those come forward fighters that joe fought were nothing at all like tyson. a young and well conditioned and motivated tyson was probably the most dangerous man in the world at his time. who were the come forward fighters that jl took out?
Agree, but at the same time you can't say Tyson ever faced or more importantly beat a guy with anywhere near the overall package of Joe Louis. Watch the Baer fight, Uzcudun, Godoy II to get a good idea of what he did against guys who wilfully mixed it up with him.
well i can agree with u on some but to me there was no real good boxers/fighters during the joe louis run. and to me the 30-40-and 50s the men were tougher but had less ability compared to todays fighters. however they learned their trade the hard way...they fought often wheras today a guy will only fight once or twice a year. hell lamotta fought 5 times in 6 weeks. who in the world today could do that and come out on top like he did? and they were all wins over tremendous gifted fighters of that era. i see joe louis as a contender today.. the men today hit harder and are stronger due to technology however they may not be as ring savvy as the fighters of yesteryear.
Going toe-to-toe with Joe wouldn't get it done. A slick boxer, with a stiff jab and right hand counters would have the best remedy. For instance, Ron Lyle would be 'made-to-order' for Joe Louis, as would a Jerry Quarry. And Joe Frazier, may have had his moments, but would have taken a hell-of-a-lot-a heavy punches to his exposed face. Lets see, a slick boxer with a stiff jab, and right hand counters,,,,,,anybody know a heavyweight with those skills,,,,,,,,,,,,,
There really is no basis for this sort of judgement at all, I'm sorry. Boxing training by and large hasn't changed, apart from less sparring and fights overall. Nutrition and emphasis in the HWs has though, people like to pack on pounds for size.... But in turn they lose the stamina and speed they'd get from training down in a week. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there is a difference in punching power between today's fatties and the fighters of Joe's era. In fact i see guys with poor finishing ability and a lot of arm punching, to be honest. You may have a point with strength training, but strength is of secondary importance in this sport. You have to realize that in order to make a claim like that you need evidence, or research right? Otherwise you're just sharing your opinion. Which by your own admission is ignorant.
thanks ignorance makes for greatness if you can se through it and take the advice of knowledgeable people. as far as goodoy(sp) he got his ass kicked by jl. what was his claim to fame? charging louis everytime he got knocked down only to go down again. im not completely ignorant about the sport nor todays scientific approach to strength training and conditioning as compared to the fighters of yesteryear
Swarmer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,excellent points,,,,,,,,you hit that nail with a 'sledgehammer' But with the loss of the many fights in the small clubs, starting in the early 60's, boxing had to change. Boxers back then, that was their job, and they had to be in condition, as a fight could be offered on a moments notice. The real first businessman champion,,,,,,,,Floyd Patterson.
Replace Louis's name with Foreman and Godoy's with Frazier and you have a similar description of another fight, right? Godoy was ranked, had W's over an older Loughran and Firpo, as well as Galento. He was also a continental champ IIRC. There is really no huge leap in conditioning. Fighters hit the bag, they do calisthenics and strongman work for strength, and they spar and run for stamina or sprints. Nutrition and PEDS have changed things. But that's a different piece of the puzzle.