Joe Louis had the most underrated chin in heavyweight history.

I think his chin gets a little too much credit for Max Baer because of Maxie's hindered right in that one, but the Larruper wouldn't have beaten the Bomber in that one regardless. Louis was in the zone.

Yes, I think his chin was underrated. Conn staggered him when he was dehydrated and underweight (but if Joe was at proper strength, Billy would have never gotten the idea of trying to knock him out). JJW's second KD in their first match was no kind of flash KD, but a rare situation where Louis rested on his knee for a few seconds before getting up to retreat until his head cleared.

Keep in mind that Louis competed during an era of lighter gloves. I think his durability and punch resistance compares favorably to Ali's. I don't recall him being cut as Ali was against Bob Foster, and he was never knocked completely silly by a single shot like Ali was by Henry Cooper. Nor did he suffer amnesia as Ali did through portions of Shavers. He really only looked like he'd been in a fight after Charles.

I think both his defense and his chin get underrated.

 

Louis was knocked down many times in his career, so his chin wasn't really underrated at all. I think it was his heart that has been underrated, i.e his will to get up and fight on after being knocked down.

 

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That's how I see it.

 

His chin does get underrated, because it is frequently used as an argument against him in head to head match ups, and the facts don’t really back that up.

He was only ever stopped after taking helacious shellackings.

Even the fact that he suffered a lot of knockdowns, has to be considered in the context that nearly half of his professional fights, were against opponents currently ranked in the top ten.

You don’t go through that level of opposition, without getting stopped, without an exceptional chin.

 

Janitor, you're very brave I will give you that.

If his chin was so exceptional, then why was he knocked down so many times throughout his career? The way most people would define a solid chin in boing terms is someone that rarely went down, i.e fighters like Hagler and Froch. To me, it seems you have got mixed up with chin and heart. :good

 

If the topic is about louis or dempsey he will try to argue you that the sky is not blue, it is green

 

Ah, I see. I guess when it comes to your favorite fighters, boxing logic goes straight out of the window.

 

Joe Louis' chin was battle tested through 69 pro fights, a lot of big punchers and some grueling bouts with 8 oz gloves. He was stopped only twice. Once by an ATG puncher when he was at the end of his career and and once by a crafty technician who handed him a sustained beating over many rounds.. His chin shouldn't be questioned.

 

Anything you have written I tend to ignore, as it's been pointed out multiple times that you are copying and pasting other peoples posts from Google search results using pages like Yahoo answers etc.

 

Guess you must histboxfan from boxrec as well, in relation to your marciano v lewis thread?

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=555235

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87412

 

Magoo,

Please read this, and I hope it makes sense and you will adopt what I'm about to say.

Here's a quick fact. Wladimir Klitschko holds the record for a champion going the longest amount of time without being floored! Do you think he has a good chin? I do not and I'm a fan of his.

Chins' are best graded when hit. How the fighter reacts to it, and the level of the puncher doing it tells you everything

Louis fought in a time when the talent was low and didn't face many skilled punchers. In addition, his offense meant the other fighters went out quickly or often stayed away from him, limiting the times his chin was checked.

So let's see when it was checked.

Billy Conn below 170 pounds who has a very low KO% stunned Louis.

Tommy Farr did the same. It's on film.

I would not call Jimmy Braddock who by the way was on a two-year layoff a heavyweight puncher either. Yet he flooded Louis.

**What we have here are telltale signs of Louis not having a good chin at all as these three are not punches at all!**

Better punchers who Louis face in Galento floored him, and Mauriello who would only be an average puncher at best today stung Louis in round one before getting stopped in round one. All of the above examples are on film where his chin was checked.

No need to talk about what Marciano did to him, but I would say the best puncher than Louis fought who landed a significant shots are both Rocky and Schmeling.

One big punch from Schmeling had Louis visibly affected for the rest of the fight. What if Louis' time had more skilled punchers? He's in some trouble.

These are his 2 KO losses.

Bottom line, Louis chin is suspect vs punchers, and not good.

Yes-- Louis faced Max Baer. Bear landed hardly anything at all, so Louis chin was not tested.

Where I think Louis is underrated is his heart. He'd get up and try even under adversity. There was no quit in the man on the topic of taking punches.