Joe Louis in the 90's

Or skills. It's because they didn't do olympic lifts or eat food.

 

I can't see many faults with Louis' technique either. But contrary to the rest of us Magnasaki has actually done the tough work in the ring himself, so us keyboard warriors could at least show some respect and hear the man out.

 

How would you know who's been in the ring and who has not ? Everyone here does not feel the need to publicize their manhood (no disrespect to Magnasaki) ... that being said, I think he's way wrong about Louis.

 

In the 1990s...

He'd lose some for sure but he'd still come out on top. And with modern juice he'd be even quicker and mroe devestating.

Joe's economical footwork would always make it hard for him against moves but guys who come to him...

I think he dismantles Tyson worse than Evander did.

Fights a 3 fight series with Holyfield going 2-1

He KO's Lennox dramatically after a give and take fight.

He breaks Bowe down.

But there would be an upset or two along the way...

 

He's shared his sparring experience with Foreman et al on this very forum.

Sure. But you can always express it in different ways.

 

That's because you don't understand boxing. Why is it that the best fighters throughout history keep their left hand low?

Even as they get older?

Mayweather, Whitaker, Robinson, Leonard, etc...

And if you're on Klitschko's nuts, Vitali does too...

The way his body is positioned makes him very difficult to hit with clean punches. The fact that his hand is low makes it very difficult for his opponent to anticipate his left. It's out of thier range of vision, so it makes it difficult for them to react in time.

 

"Feather-fisted" is an exagerration but Braddock, Galento and Thomas all had Louis seriously hurt at one point or another. Also, Buddy Baer was a huge guy but he wasn't his brother by any stretch.

 

Buddy Baer and Tony Gallento were both huge punchers. They probably both hit harder than Oliver McCall and Hasim Ramhan if you want a frame of refference in the 1990s.

Jimmy Braddock is harder to guage as a puncher because he suffered from brittle hands for most of his career. He was a serious banger at light heavyweight, and got a good write up as a puncher from some of his haavyweight opponents. He is probably at least the equal of Michael Moorer.

I would hesitate to say that Harry Thomas had Louis hurt. I see no evidence to suggest this.

 

Joe would clean house

 

That he often moved his right hand when jabbing is the most consistent flaw I've seen. But thanks for some interesting points.

 

Sure, there are reasons for it. But it is a considered a flaw from a strictly text book perspective. Try it in a gym and every trainer worth his salt will correct you. And Louis paid a heavy price for it against Schmeling.

 

As Swarmer noted, training would be the wild card ...

But, if Louis comes along in the '90's and developes in analogy to how he developed in his own time, I'd favor him over any of the '90's stand outs.
I'd give Holyfield the best chance ..... Would be a little suprised, though, if Joe went undefeated in the '90's.

Aside from sports-specific nutrition and physical development techniques, I'd also expect Joe (born 60 years later) to have a touch bigger frame -- maybe an inch taller or so -- just due to general environmental factors.

 

Louis on steroids is a scary thought.

 

No argument there ..