Joe Louis in today's heavyweight picture

Champs from the past should be left in their own era. 100% agree. But don't you ever wonder how good one of those champs could have been today with the advantages of advanced training, clear FILMS of fighters they are facing, cut/swelling/medical treatment? I personally think Joe could have held the belt longer if he had half of the advantages boxers of today have. Sorry to pick of Wlad, but he watched A LOT of film of Barney rubble and decided to combat his southpaw stance by swatting his jab down. That tactic itself is unheard of in the older days of boxing. I remember hearing that boxers would see each other for the first time in the ring. They would analyse their opponent's face and decide their plans. If the guy had a flat or crocked nose they knew he was open to jabs and straight rights. If his checks were fat=hooks. Hands low=scared to get hit in the body, etc. So modern day boxers are clearly advantaged in actually seeing their opponents strengths and weaknesses

 

You are forgetting something. All of Louis' opponents would ALSO have those advantages. It wasn't as if Joe's opponents had today's advantages either, and that he was just left in the dark. It's a wash. Neither Joe nor his opponents had those advantages. If Joe is allowed to have them, then we would have to allow everyone that he faced to have them as well. So... it is no longer an advantage.

 

Thats fine Widdow, I gave you a chance to prove yourself as nothing more than a fan of Wlad, not a nuthugger as most suggest. In respect for the thread starter, I will let it go after this post and hopefully catch you on a Wlad thread. I am a Wlad hater, I never denied that, and gave good reasons why I feel that way, but I never let my dislike for him take away from how good of fighter I think he is.

Just for you Widdow, I will name some ATG's I would favor Wlad against.

Patterson, Carnera, Charles, Johansen, Cooper, and Norten.

 

Also, Magoo....

Go look at my first couple posts on this topic. It was you guys who IMMEDIATELY started bashing today's fighters. The only reason I brought up Wlad just ONCE was for a very simple reason. He is the best heavyweight today. I mentioned him in passing and you guys just started pouding the "Wlad" subject down my throat. Which of course spins into a "you bash Wlad while I defend" thread.

 

:rofl If Widdow was asked who he thought Wlad could beat, every ATG Heavyweights would be named.

 

The problem is that nobody agrees with you about the only real debate we have had. Except a few admitted Wlad haters who would honestly vote against Wlad no matter what the subject was.

As far as this debate goes... I have CLEARLY backed up my opinions more than you have. As soon as I brought any facts to the table you begin bashing either myself or current champions with nothing but bias. It's pointless. Just look at the last little discussion about the "Louis being vulnerable to right hands". I brought something worthwhile to the table, and you immediately start bashing on Wlad vs Ibragimov.... wtf?:huh

 

Go back and read.

 

Actually... this was my very first post on this thread.

 

Wow, you really can't read.