Joe Louis-Omelio Agramonte II 1951

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Opinions on the fight? Agramonte had slick movement huh? He had some very nice defensive moves too. For glimpes of Vintage Joe Louis, checkout 3:05-3:15. Louis could still pack a wallop at times. This was a good scrap, Louis looked dangerous here vs a younger faster opponent.

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I think Agramonte with his speed, movement and athleticism, is hard for any old fighter to knock out. Louis clearly still packed power in one punch(as seen with the way he knocked Agramonte down for a 9 count with one right hand)...but louis lacked the 1930's reflexes to put together fight finishing combinations. When Omelion got up, he was ready to be taken out, but Louis just couldn't put together one big combination. That's all he needed.

 

I disagree here. Louis recorded his career best victory in 1948 over a Prime Jersey Joe Walcott. Walcott was the best Louis ever beat. This was a legacy sealer for Louis. I think this was the ideal time for Joe to retire.

Possibly...but's it not like the dude was a walking corpse. With his Size, Jab, Left Hook, and Skills...I can't see any of those young heavyweight contenders wanting to take him on in the 1950s. He only lost to heavyweight Champions(marciano and charles). Layne, Lastarza, Henry, Baker..I don't think any of these men wanted any part of Louis.
Louis was due for a title shot rematch for Charles in 1951 before charles was knocked out by Walcott ruining the hopes. Louis was only one big punch/combination away from winning the title, so he had a shot against anyone including Charles. Jersey Joe Walcott certainly did not want to fight big joe for a 3rd time, that's the last fight Jersey would have taken to defend his title.

 

That's fine. But I am curious, who would you rank above him

Checkout Walcott right here

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Notice his unbelievable poetry like footwork, his ATG upperbody and head movement, his uncanny use of angles, his pistol like jab, his scientific feints, his fast hands and reflexes...and scarily enough...he packed one punch knockout power in both fists! Walcott, imo, was a h2h monster. A nightmare for most fighters in history. He looks incredible on film to me. i don't see any of Louis other opponents who can match him, even Schmeling.

A past his prime champion finding the courage and perseverance to set up a trap one last time behind on the cards vs a ATG prime heavyweight is the definition of greatness.

Boring? How could you ever call such a cute naturally skilled technician like walcott boring? I could watch Jersey Joe all day long...Not to mention Joe Louis, the way he slowly methodically stalks his opponents, peppering him with telephone pole jabs, before unleashing frightening combinations. Sure the fight was not as action packed as the first meeting, but this fight had two highly skilled fighters in there.

Walcott won the first Louis fight. No Doubt. Even a ESB poster who was live at the fight in 1947, said so. A very bad decision. So you saying Walcott winning it at his "fifth" attempt is negligible because Walcott really won it in his FIRST attempt. You could argue walcott should have been 2x champ...winning it his first try in 47, losing it in 48, then winning it again in 51.

That is because he was

A. Past his prime
B. Fighting Walcott. Walcott could make anyone in history look bad, and he could beat anyone in history if he is on.

It wasn't a good win. It was a great win over a great opponent. Not many in history could beat Walcott at his best.