Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali who do you rank higher?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ripcity, Mar 20, 2009.


Page 1 of 9
  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,449
    51
    Dec 5, 2006
    As of now I have Ali at #1 and Louis at #2 in my all time heavyweight list. However I have been consedering switching them. I fell they are very equal in boxing abillities/skills with a slight edge to Louis. I tend to beleve that a prime for prime match up would end eather in a late (13th-15th) round stopage win for Louis or 9-6 or 8-7 win for Ali. A draw is also possible. What gives Ali the advantage is that I fell he fought in a much better era than Louis did. I do beleve that if Louis had faced Ali's opoenets he would have beat them as well.
    In short Ali is my #1 heavyweight because he was born at the right time.
     
    ripcity, Mar 20, 2009
    ripcity, Mar 20, 2009
    #1
  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,077
    3,740
    Sep 14, 2005
    I do believe louis would get to muhammad ali late...around round 13 or 14 and knock him out, while behind on points.
     
    SuzieQ49, Mar 20, 2009
    SuzieQ49, Mar 20, 2009
    #2
  3. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

    6,030
    12
    May 3, 2008
    Ali for MANY reasons.
     
    smitty_son408, Mar 20, 2009
    smitty_son408, Mar 20, 2009
    #3
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,667
    27,382
    Feb 15, 2006
    There is honestly next to nothing separating them in terms of legacy.

    I will call it for Louis if pushed but they are 1A and 1B rather than 1 and 2.
     
    janitor, Mar 20, 2009
    janitor, Mar 20, 2009
    #4
  5. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

    28,075
    54
    Oct 15, 2007
    I always ranked Louis at 1 and Ali 2, until i come clean with myself and realised i was only doing so because of a personal preference. Since then they switched, Ali number 1 for me.
     
    teeto, Mar 20, 2009
    teeto, Mar 20, 2009
    #5
  6. Bing

    Bing Active Member Full Member

    668
    4
    Jul 14, 2007
    Louis for me can go either way tho
     
    Bing, Mar 20, 2009
    Bing, Mar 20, 2009
    #6
  7. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,150
    15,649
    Dec 20, 2006
    Louis at 1 and Ali for 2 IMO
     
    PhillyPhan69, Mar 20, 2009
    PhillyPhan69, Mar 20, 2009
    #7
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,829
    29,275
    Jun 2, 2006
    Ali is my no 1.Louis no4 .That puts me in the minority!
     
    mcvey, Mar 20, 2009
    mcvey, Mar 20, 2009
    #8
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,256
    13,286
    Jan 4, 2008
    Louis no. 4?!
     
    Bokaj, Mar 20, 2009
    Bokaj, Mar 20, 2009
    #9
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

    38,034
    92
    Nov 10, 2008
    i think Ali is the best heavyweight

    but louis for me is the best heavyweight champion

    my top 10 heavyweaights are

    1.ali
    2. louis

    but louis for me is the best heavyweight champion ever
     
    GPater11093, Mar 20, 2009
    GPater11093, Mar 20, 2009
    #10
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    402
    Jun 14, 2006
    Muhammad Ali and I don't think it's close, in terms of best wins or H2H.
     
    Addie, Mar 20, 2009
    Addie, Mar 20, 2009
    #11
  12. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

    5,112
    74
    Nov 20, 2006
    Louis. It's very close.
     
    Holmes' Jab, Mar 20, 2009
    Holmes' Jab, Mar 20, 2009
    #12
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,829
    29,275
    Jun 2, 2006
    yes!
     
    mcvey, Mar 20, 2009
    mcvey, Mar 20, 2009
    #13
  14. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

    5,112
    74
    Nov 20, 2006

    Which two fighters do you have inbetween out of curiosity?
     
    Holmes' Jab, Mar 20, 2009
    Holmes' Jab, Mar 20, 2009
    #14
  15. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

    28,075
    54
    Oct 15, 2007
    If you look at this without bias, there are people picking Louis and there are people picking Ali. The people picking Louis are all saying 'but it's very close', and some of the people are saing Ali and saying its not close. Now lets be objective withough any bias, if someone says its Louis and its not close they will gt salughtere here, you need to add the close factor to your choice for it to be justifiable. Its possible for people to get away with saying Ali and its not close enough to quite merit Louis being above him.

    Just trying to pot the debate into context here.
     
    teeto, Mar 20, 2009
    teeto, Mar 20, 2009
    #15
Page 1 of 9