Joe Louis' scorecards vs the best boxers he fought.

Joe Louis' scorecards vs the best boxers he fought.


Some believe Louis, who in my opinion and many others fought in a down era of boxing was a near perfect boxer. I'm not one of those who thinks that way because I have seen his films vs. men who in many cases were giving up height, and reach to him. Yet they had no issues landing on him. With the superior firepower power in all cases, if Louis was this master boxer type ( Offense and defense ) he should have dominated on the scorecards. Yet he was often floored or behind.

Let's add up the rounds were given to Louis vs the best four boxers he fought. To use a qualifier, I'll average out score cards given, and not penalize Louis for knockdowns in the round because back then there were no 10-8 rounds. In the case of Schmeling vs. Louis 1, I could not find score cards so let's say I'll be very generous and give Louis 4 rounds of the 12.

The best four boxers Louis fought in my opinion were:

Schmeling
Walcott
Conn
Charles


1. Schmeling-Louis and Schmeling fought a combined 13 rounds. Louis won but 5 of 13 rounds, and I'm being generous to Louis. Schmeling was thought to be passed his best for the first fight, meanwhile Louis was coming off his best career filmed performance vs Max. Baer

2. Walcott vs Louis. Both men were the same age in both fights. 26 rounds fought, and an average of 12 of them went to Louis. The first fight was rather controversial and the second one in my opinion had Walcott well out in the lead. But I'm using the judges official cards since we have them.

3. Conn vs Louis. 21 rounds were fought. Conn looked terrible in the rematch and retired the same year, but hey that's part of it as Schmeling was thought to be passed his best in the first Louis fight. The score cards awarded 10 of 21 rounds to Louis on average

4. Charles. This time, it was Louis on the decline. 15 rounds were fought Charles stood right in front of Louis, who was on big time winning streak and still had his jab and power and whipped Louis badly. Louis won three rounds on average and, to be honest, that seems a little high.

Summary. Louis won just 30 of 75 rounds fought. This is just 40% of the rounds fought.

 

These are the score cards, Janitor. Are you saying they were wrong? My point which is underscored once you look at the given cards is Louis was not a master boxer at all. He struggled vs each man at least once.

It's not like he was the smaller or lighterman. It's not like he was giving up reach.

 

Very predictable.

One can not be at their worst then they are using facts, McGrain. Do you have an issue with these score cards? Do tell. You simply can't debate these given facts, so you try to opt out with a smirk.

I think that Conn who was but 168 pounds, and according to Louis had the title for 12 rounds was KO'd because he opted to press it. The result is not in dispute, the rounds scored are an examination of how Louis did as a boxer.

Both Schmeling who was thought to be passed his best in the first fight and Louis destroyed each other one.

Walcott, I think won more rounds than Louis did for sure in the second fight, and I think the first fight was a controversial decision.

Charles had his way with Louis. Sure Louis was older for this one, but his jab and power were still there in fights before and after. Charles whipped him on skills.

 

Ya know, when people hate the tone of the writing, but can't touch the facts or even debate them it tells me everything.

This is to say I'm correct, they just don't like it.

I was hoping for a debate on this...It looks like Louis fans aren't up to it.

 

If you want to ignore the Charles fight, Louis is just 27 out of 60. Still below 50% of round won.

But it works both ways as Conn and Schmeling were passed their best in the 2nd fight.