Joe Louis' scorecards vs the best boxers he fought.

Oh ok, well some scored the Olympic final for Park Si-Hun........ It's the result that counts I suppose.

 

Well it's a controversial fight. As you have yourself stated in her cards have been submitted ranging from 15-5 Jersey through to 9-6 Louis.

I cannot go against an official result when plenty of people have scored it for Louis, some by a margin as a wide as 3 rounds according to you, and I haven't been able to score it myself.

The first fight was controversial and close. So much so they had a rematch. The rematch was incredibly decisive.

 

I think this quote was aimed at someone else mate as it didn't address anything I said.

 

I think it's clear that the fight was close enough to cause controversy. Thankfully in this case they had a rematch so we could who the superior heavyweight was.

 

He did not win any rounds, but he was just opening up at the end of round 2, with that big right hand of his broken, he had no chance.

 

So Joe Louis could be out boxed until he caught up to his opponent.

 

Aimed straight at you with the silly comment some thought Louis won and some thought Walcott won......

 

There is plenty of material out there mentioning his hand injury so we can accept that.I think his most pressing problem was his heart ,he quit.Louis said later, Baer did not hit as hard as he thought he would and that Max had a great chin.

 

Thats strange because you mentioned an amatuer fight with readily available footage.

We're discussing a professional fight that does not have readily available footage.

Also there is nothing silly about the people who scored the fight for Jersey or those who scored it for Louis. You see those guys have a huge advantage over us two as they have actually seen the fight in full, we have not.

If I'm gonna disagree with an official result I'm gonna watch the fight first.

 

Does footage need to be available for it to be pretty conclusive that Walcott won?

You have no footage of certain greats of the past but I bet damn sure you will rank some in the top 10. How can you do this without any footage?

 

Yes.

 

Louis was the greatest puncher in boxing history. He wasn’t in the ring to outbox people, his entire style was designed to maximize his greatest assets. He fought in an era of 15 round and 20 round fights. He paced himself knowing over the course of 15-20 rounds he would get his openings and have the opportunity to remove his opponent.
His resume is stellar - he barely has any filler opponents.
Both the Walcott and Charles fights were post WW2 where Louis is visibly very diminished looking on film. Still whether you feel he won or lost the first Walcott fight he was very competitive and in the rematch another competitive bout he knocked Walcott out. While he wasn’t nearly as competitive vs Charles in his first bout back after a 2 year layoff take a look at Charles’s face after the bout. No way does Charles last with Prime Joe.
If we are going to judge every version of Louis whether post prime or not then he should get the credit of the opponents he defeated regardless of their version.
He beat Pastor twice, Levinsky a mover in one round, Bivins a tremendous fighter, John Henry Lewis in one round, Walcott got ko’d in the rematch, conn was ko’d twice.
Seems to me, Louis’s style often prevailed one way or another against any type of fighter