Joe Louis' scorecards vs the best boxers he fought.

For those who think it's a robbery, had anyone ringside ever produced a score card showing a clear Jersey victory of say 5 rounds or more?

 

I don't think it was a robbery. It was close enough to not be called a robbery per se. However, what is also clear is that Walcott likely should've been given the nod.

 

Clear and likely are contradictions in this context.
I don't think its clear ,as I haven't seen the entire fight.

 

From what I've seen almost every score card is within one round of each other 8-7 to either man. Been ages since I checked it up though but that's what I seem to remember.

 

If i did i used a comprehensive list of first hand sources, not a quote i found on the internet with no other details.

 

Still waiting on what is the most probable/logical deduction to be made... 1 or 2

 

Bring up the possibility of impropriety isn't an argument, let alone proof to discredit the facts we do have about the votes of sportswriters. So either come up with a more comprehensive list of sportswriters for the fight, or we'll just go ahead and go with what we know. I can't say... look the majority of sportswriters voted for Walcott... to back up my case that he should've been given the nod. A valid argument to that, isn't, well they could've been wrong or maybe all of them weren't asked. If you have any info contradicting who voted for who, I'd be happy to see it.

 

I wonder if the people who did score the fight for Jersey all agreed on the 8 rounds he won and the 7 rounds Louis won. If not that is the clearest indication of an either way fight you could ever have.

 

On a side note, you can’t have both of them losing the fight.

The people who we think of as being overly critical of Louis, slam Louis for getting a gift decision against Walcott, but later slam Walcott for needing five attempts to win the heavyweight title.

You can’t have it both ways.

 

The problem here is your numbers are skewed by your insistence on including the Charles fight, when Louis was 36 and hadn't fought in two years.

And why only six? Why not include Bob Pastor, an excellent boxer/mover whom Louis shut out on the cards twice.

 

Schmeling Charles Conn Walcott were amongst the best skilled boxers in ring history. How many heavyweights in history are capable of being ahead on the scorecards vs them? Very few. Louis fought all four of these men when they were prime, while Louis was clearly past his prime against Walcott and Charles.


Who in heavyweight history had better skills than Charles and Walcott?

 

Off the official scoring, had the second fight ended after 11 rounds, Louis would have probably won or at least gotten a draw.

Going into the 11th round, the scores were 5-2 for Louis, 3-6 with Walcott ahead, and 4-5 with Walcott ahead.

So the last card would have been 5-5 or a draw in rounds, but the big 11th, (assuming Walcott managed to beat the count) would most likely have given the supplemental points to Louis.