Joe Louis Speed.

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  1. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    I just recently started watching more of Louis fights and in particularly VS Max Baer.
    In the Baer fight Louis seems so fast even in the bad quality. His hands were pretty much a blur.

    IMO Louis is a top 5 Fastest hands for the heavyweight division. Compared to modern fighters Louis is definitely faster than Wilder, AJ and probably Fury.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Quick, not fast

    I would put his prime speed in the lower top 10.
     
  3. McGrain

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    In punching he's faster than all of them by miles, yes. But it's not just metres per second on what he tosses. That's not it. It's how fast the punches come, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 punches, how big are the gaps between shots. Watch someone like Wilder - there can be seconds between those shots. If you watch a lot of footage of AJ, find footage of him throwing four punches and count how long passes between punch one and punch four. It will be two, three times how long it takes Louis, the difference is absurd. In this regard, which is as important as any aspect of speed, Louis may be the fastest.

    He may be the fastest combination puncher there is over long-distance combinations. Someone like Mike Tyson might be quicker over wide spaces - up, down, left, right, but if you want a guy putting six punches on a sixpence, Louis is fastest (And best). That's balance and technique.

    “He hit me 18 times while I was in the act of falling.” — Max Baer
     
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  4. Kell Macabe

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    Very good way to put his speed thanks
     
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  5. Saintpat

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    Eddie Futch said Tyson had the best hand speed of any heavyweight he’d seen since Joe Louis.

    And he saw ‘em all.
     
  6. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Louis's hand speed WITH power is the best their is.
    Ali may have hit faster,
    Tyson may have hit harder with one shot.
    But no heavy in history had the perfect combination
    of speed,power, instinct, and technical skills of
    Joe Louis.
     
  7. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    Who would you consider faster?
     
  8. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    That is brilliant.
     
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  9. mr. magoo

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    I think he had some of the fastest hands of all heavyweights. Not saying he was number one in that department but he was up there. He needed that speed to land those combinations.
     
  10. Tonto62

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    "Kell Macabe, post: 21501704, member: 125528"]Who would you consider faster?[/QUOTE]
    Patterson?
     
  11. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    Patterson?[/QUOTE]
    I would agree Patterson is faster along with Ali and Tyson.
     
  12. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So this. Nobody threw combinations like Louis.
     
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  13. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Patterson, Ali, Tyson, Holmes, Dempsey,

    But, as others stated. Putting speed into combinations is Joe's best attribute.