Joe Louis The Greatest in History - Why the lack of respect?

We've been dissecting his technique and in ring abilities for quite a while now, and stacking them up against other all time legends. He's good this Louis guy.

Every champion after Louis has had deficiencies too.

Golovkin is a reminder of why Louis' style was so effective.

 

He was good, against the limited opposition of his day. But he also had a shaky chin, defensive holes, and was vulnerable to being outboxed by fighters who could outmanoeuvre and out-think him. There are just too many things working against him.

 

You're just listing weaknesses. I can do the same on every champion ever.

When you weigh the good with the bad, Louis stacks up better than almost everyone else, if not the best.

 

No he doesn't. His combination of flat feet, shaky defence and awful chin would be disastrous against some of the mammoth hitters of later eras.

 

I didn't say all those named were past prime in those fights but that for 6 of them they were,and I now name them, Grimsley,Savarese,McBride,Shultz,the others as I said were pre- prime fights,ie, Marshall,Welch which is actually 7 .What I dislike about you is you combative stance when you made the thread on Joe Louis' right hand every else is a know -nothing and you are some oracle I didnt call you a kid in my last post I said you acted like one on that thread ,bigging yourself up ,and you did. Again you have comprehension difficulties, I haven't given an opinion on Louis. I will now he isn't the hardest puncher of the heavyweights,imo but he may well be the most effective and he certainly is the most correct hitter of them. I rate him above Liston ,Tyson,Lewis in the ATG heavyweights that doesn't mean he necessarily beats them. Billy Conn only faced 9 heavyweights, the only one of which that was a puncher was Louis who ko'd him both times.Bottom line Louis ko'd a super middleweight twice and for the 2nd fight Conn was totally washed up.
You have a very high regard for yourself and your boxing knowledge ,from what I have seen it is unjustified so far. Now prove your assertions about Louis and Dempsey's right and left hands because I don't believe them and neither does anyone else.
How old you are is irrelevant,when you come on metaphorically patting yourself on the back , everybody will assume you are an immature kid, simply because you act like one.

 

Golovkin fights nothing like Louis.

 

ydksab

Louis has an awful chin and bad defense. Yet held the belt the longest.

Absolutely! logic.

lol

 

They have a lot of similarities.

 

Such as? GGG has excellent footwork that is always taking him towards his opponent , but he can retreat with equal facility if he needs to. If you want to see a facsimile of Joe Louis, in footwork, jab, correct punching,and right cross ,watch Alexis Arguello.

 

At the highest level of abstraction, they are both very great textbook boxers who have serious power with every punch. They are both efficient, precise, and apply intelligent pressure throughout the fight.

Their usage of upper body movement looks very similar. They both use head movement only when they have to, and not as a part of their rhythm. They have similar punching form, and can throw power shots from creative angles, like the overhand hook. They both have tremendous balance, and can punch from a crouch, or straight up. They can punch from the inside or the outside. They both have an incredibly developed shoulder snap.

Despite having the ability to slug, they use their jab and straights. They have great power, but they don't neglect their defense. You feel a similar aura to both, in the way they dominate their opponents, and in the manner in which they do it.

 

All champions after they've been gone for awhile face criticism especially in their abilities h2h. It's only natural. Helps the modern guys get their due respect.

 

Against a steady stream of men who wouldn't even be considered heavyweights today.

Context. Get some.

 

This is one of Joe Louis best abilities. He can step back and in at any time.
He does it a lot against M Baer. Especially in round 1.

 

Carnera?
Buddy Baer?
Max Baer?
Abe Simon?

You can't blame the matchmakers of the time for not putting Jack Doyle, Jose Santa, Impelletiere, Campolo in front of the line to fight Louis. The SHWs in the 30's didn't dominate the division, despite there being plenty of them. Simple as that.

"The smaller guys who hit hard are the toughest opponents to face." - Deontay Wilder

 

LMAO. Shameless.