Joe Louis + Tomato Cans = overrated legacy

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  1. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This post was low IQ in 09 and remains so today.
     
  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    He lost a single fight when he was even vaguely near his prime.

    Like I said, who fought even half as many top contenders and didn't have hard fights? That's completely normal. People seem to live in a deluded fantasy land, where fighters just blast away all their opposition with laughable ease.

    Ali was dropped by Henry Cooper, lost to Norton and Frazier etc., Larry Holmes was fought close by Norton and an inexperienced Witherspoon, was dropped heavily by Shavers etc. Lennox Lewis lost to McCall and Rahman.
     
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  3. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 I’m become seeker of milk Full Member

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    You do raise some good points. Walcott beat him the first time by my card and Charles but that was not the real Brown Bomber. Marciano? That was Louis at the very end of the line and yet in all three fights he made a good showing of himself.

    Schemling beat him but had a great boxing mind- Schemling was also crushed in the next fight some time later. Consider Conns chin, cagey style and mentality going into that fight and understand why he was such a difficult opponent. Also ever the fan of rematches Louis turned Walcott into dust when Jersey Joe tempted fate in the rematch.

    He had four losses truthfully. All to ATGs and three of those losses were at the very end of the line. He was a model champion who got the job done.
     
  5. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    overrated yea none of the people he fought would make pro in 70s-90s
     
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  6. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    bums compared to 70s-90s none would make hw in these years have you seen these years to ask a dumb question
     
  7. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    facts and people say now still that he could beat a lennox or George when he obviously would be outmatched and dropped fast and brutal
     
  8. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    Yes he would lose to guys like Lennox and George but that doesn't deny the fact Louis was one of the greatest boxers who ever lived. You're just saying that he would lose to some boxers today, anybody can say that
     
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Admittedly, they weren't technical wizards on the level of a Deontay Wilder, say. But few men rise to that level of skill.
     
  10. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I dont know what that means anybody can say that if your trying to act like thats not true well it is look at how the people he fought and look at those 90s-70s big difference
     
  11. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Among the many completely biased analyses of the OP, thankfully seemingly long gone, it is telling that when he was calledd on facts-like Louis supposedly being an Olympic champion-or there were detailed arguments discrediting his onw-he ignored them.
    This is a sign of someone who is insecure & just looking for an ego boost, not honest & searching for the truth.

    One thing nobody addressed is when he falsely claimd that Braddock beat Baer so badly they made a name for it.
    I di not know what he is talking about, what name?
    And even in the maligning portrayal of Baer in CInderella Man, they never portrayed it as any kind of a beating.
    Braddock survived to outpoint a ferocious puncher. It was by no means even a blowout, let alone a one sided beating.

    Things like this totally erode the credibility of the original poster.
     
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  12. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I can only imagine how boxing fans in the 1940s would be totally blown away by all the sharp, crisp, punches of Fury Wilder III. Poor old shuffling Joe Biden, sorry I mean Louis, couldn't never throw such clean punches.
     
  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Biden's superior modern debate training and nutrition would allow him to roll over verbal primitives like 70s Buckley, Chomsky, or Vidal on the debate stage. And you know it.
     
  14. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    right another person who can see Louis was overrated he did great vs dudes who would never make pro in 70s-90s
     
  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't even recognise sarcasm...
     
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