Joe Louis, Underrated or just not that great???

Right as is if you give Louis the benefit of the doubt on close rounds, he still looses. I hope that makes sense.

It seems your have a lot less footage than I have. The audio ending sums of the match perfectly. Thunderous boos from the crowd with Louis looking like a beaten fighter before the decision was announced.

 

Well a lot of people thought that Walcott won the fight but there were those who made the opposite argument.

Some observers argued that since Louis landed more punches and was clearly the agressor, that he should have been awarded the decision. Ruby Goldstein was criticised from some quaters for scoring the fight for Walcott.

I think that the ballance of contemporary opinion was in Walcotts favour, but this was not exactly Holyfield Lewis I.

 

Vitali has been hurt before, Sanders and Lewis spring to mind. Sure they are both big punchers, but Louis isn't? The chances are if Vitali decides to 'mix it up' with Louis, he gets chinned.

 

From what I have seen of the fight (is the whole fight on film ?) I thought Walcott won by a slim margin.

 

I definitely wouldnt call it a robbery. It was very close and too be honest Louis looked way worse than he had in the majority of his career.

 

Louis had no doubts he deserved the decision, and said so in his auto biography, he was disgusted by how bad the fight had been and less than enthralled by Walcott's evasive tactics.

Louis had originally suggested Joe Baksi as an opponent, but, after trying him, Mike Jacobs told Louis, Baksi was scheduled to fight Ollie Tandberg in Stockholm.
Jacobs suggested Louis take Baksi after he beat Tandberg ,but unfortunately Tandberg won .

Louis said he had difficulty coming down from over 218lbs ,he hardly ate for two days prior to the fight and was also dehydrated.Louis also felt ,having not fought in over a year,[ the quick Mauriello ko ] , affected him adversely.

Judge Marty Monroe 9-6 Louis,Judge Frank Forbes 8-6 -1 even

Louis,Referee Goldstein 7-6 -2 even Walcott.

Hardly a big robbery ,even Goldstein had them very close.

Irrespective, there was no doubt who won the return.

 

I think Walcott won by a larger margin than 8 to 7. If you read what I said, the 8 to 7 score for Walcott was giving Louis the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT ON THE CLOSE ROUNDS.

 

Did you know Walcott's camp refuse to let Donovan ( Louis personal ref for 15+ fights ) be the third man in the ring? Its true. Goldstein was the replacement ref.

The 9-6 score was pure BS. The 8-6-1 was what I call clever judging to avoid a draw. Louis had an " in " at Madison Square Garden. His managers, one of whom went to prison for mob related activity were kings in that castle. The judges in some of Louis' fights did not seem to score against him in the close rounds, and sometimes flat out gave him rounds he did not deserve.

 

Since Louis only went the distance twice in title fights whilst champion this remark does not hold up. Louis defended 8 times in MSG, both his close fights were there, but the returns were at Yankee Stadium .As champion would it not have made sense to have them at MSG if Louis got biased scoring there, as you aver?
John Roxborough ,Louis' manager went to prison for offences that had nothing to do with boxing, in fact the four champions that preceded Louis Baer ,Braddcok,Carnera ,and Sharkey all had mob connections to some degree whereas LOUIS DID NOT.

 

Louis was managed by mob connected rackateers in Black and Roxborough. The crime convicted against Roxborough irrelevant. He was Mob connected in boxing.

They got Al Capone on income tax evasion, not for the other stuff he did. Madison Square Garden had HUGE gambling problem with fixes in sports.

 

Care to name one of the fixes Louis was involved in?