Joe Louis, Underrated or just not that great???

You say it was clever judging to avoid a draw ,that is just your interpretation of it,you have no factual basis to make that statement.
The king of MSG was the promoter Mike Jacobs ,not Roxborough and Black, Louis's managers
Louis fought in MSG a total of 12 times, 4 of them while not Champion.After defending against Walcott by split dec he fought there 2 more times ,both times Goldstein was the referee .Since Louis only went the distance 3 times in MSG I dont see where you get your accusations of biased scoring from.he clearly beat Bob Pastor by ud over 10rds, and had close fights with Godoy and Walcott ,if Louis' management were sure they would get the benefit of the doubt in MSG, why were the returns for these close fights not held there ?
The NY TImes called the Godoy dec "eminently fair". Since you have not seen the full Walcott fight I am amazed you can be so dogmatic that it was a robbery.
Then again ,you were similarly authoritative about David Haye's performance the other day,though you admitted you had not seen the fight!

 

I'd say its par for the Mendoza course.

 

I rank Joe Louis no2 at HW & he makes my top 10 p4p, phenomenal fighter.

At his best, he has a chance vs anyone at their best, I think he beats about 90% of the other greats H2H.

 

I am alone at putting him down at 4, but some of the claims about rigging rounds are just spurious nonsense.

 

I think hes overrated based on the fact his top wins in my view arent as good as Ali, Lennox, Holyfield, Tyson and maybe Marciano. In terms of dominance and longevity Ali/Holmes/Lennox/Klitschkos are close or better

 

Who did Lennox and Tyson beat that were as good as Prime versions of Jersey Joe Walcott and Max Schmeling? Please don't say a 37 year old holyfield or pinklon thomas.

Don't you ever dare compare Vitali Klitschko with Joe Louis.

 

I believe Joe Louis is the # 1 heavyweight of all time. Any rating below 1 or 2 is preposterous.

 

First off Louis never beat a prime Schmelling, Schmelling was past his best when he beat Louis

Both Lennox's and Tysons overall competition was far better, technically and in terms of size/power

And is that because Vitali would be too big and beat up on little Louis?

 

I've seen the fight recently. There were boos, but not like you make it out.

Louis was made to look a bit of a fool at times. Walcott caught him and landed good clean punches. But Louis was jabbing effective enough and forcing the fight. It's more close than people realize I think. In today's day, people would view Walcott as having been too "negative" in a Dirrell like fashion to have lost. I think anyway... but then again those knockdowns being scored an extra point would help.

 

I'm talking about with fans. Maybe I'm wrong though.

Gee, thanks, it's not like I wasn't making that point.

Anyway, this thread is hilarious. Mainly due to Mendoza and his reasoning. What other evidence is he going to use? That Walcott's manager and trainer were protesting and throwing their arms in the air when he lost.