Joe Louis v Abe Simon II

I think Shavers would go better TBH. Maybe not show that much durability but he'd be more dangerous IMO. Abe, just in this fight, doesn't show me Shavers type offensive danger and power. Heck, Shavers might be the hardest hitter ever. Whether he'd land bugger all on Joe is another thing of course, but he'd sure wing em. Obviously this isn't our best example of Simon.

 

Shavers' brute power is always a bit of a leveller against anyone without the most granite of chins (remember Joe was seceptable to KD's early on occasion), but ultimately Louis will be the one landing first and more often/accurately. In any case it's set be an early knockout, if not Louis will get Earnie when he runs out of puff: 80:20 or more in favour of Louis.

I don't think Shavers would fare much better than Simon, but he could last a bit longer than Simon did in the rematch.

 

No, you don't want to be that much of a big, unmoving target when facing Louis. Beautiful, but savage, exhibition. Unbelievable that he complained at being counted out after taking that kind of beating. Tough cat, indeed.

How do you see Lyle faring against that Louis, McGrain? Would it be much the same story, you think? Foreman?

 

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I think Louis well might take Foreman out quite early, but it might go the other way as well. The sheer power and ferocity George brought into the ring in the early stages would always make him dangerous.

No, I don't think anyone really fancies Lyle's chances, but would he be a punching bag like Simon or would he bring something more to the table, you think?

 

Lyle vs Louis is an interesting one. Lyle give Foreman all he could handle, though I don't think Foreman was phycologically the same for a good while after the Rumble: an earlier version would've been more clinical IMO. Lyle is hardpushed to make it past the early running against Louis, but if he does he wouldn't last much further than the 5th.


Louis would knock Foreman out, I'd say around the 7th (maybe after visiting the canvas himself). His compact style is perfect against the crude Foreman.

 

So is the first fight film?? Was able to pick the 2nd fight up a while ago. A lot better in viewing in seeing it on a big TV screen lol, than a small box on Youtube.

OVer all, Louis just bucther Simon, it was not much of a fight, and Simon was just out of his class. Louis look impressive though, and is a fun fight to watch, the ko was great.

 

Or Jeffries in the first Corbett fight, or Willard in Havana.

This may have been Joe's most inspired performance since the Schmeling rematch, so determined was he to make the dying Blackburn proud of him. (Of course we all know how Joe said to him on the radio during the post fight interview: "I hope you're proud of me Chappie," and how the listening Blackburn replied with tears in his eyes, "I sure am!") It's strange to see Louis losing his balance missing that wild right during the opening seconds in his eagerness to sacrifice Simon as a reverential offering to his beloved mentor.

Mannie Seamon was a fine trainer, but even if there had not been a WW II interrupting Joe's career, he was not likely to improve beyond the Simon rematch without Blackburn to guide him.

Jerry Quarry blew Shavers out, while Ellis had Earnie going until the referee separated them. Joe's punches were too short and crisp for Shavers to be able to cope.

Lyle probably would have tried utilizing movement and counterpunching to outbox Louis. He might have had some early success doing this, but would have worn down as the rounds accumulated.

 

Big Dee would be embarrassed by that poor imitation of a post!