Joe Louis v Bermane Stiverne?

Galento didn't have bad technique.

He would fit in great in this era.

Completely immobile, but a huge left hook and a huge right hand.

The guy is incredibly explosive with his left hook. What puncher in the current heavyweight division has a comparable, explosive left hook?

 

Are you serious?

He was a one trick pony who had shitty footwork, kept his hands at his waist when it was major deficit to do so, led the same way with each exchange, gave huge tells and left little to doubt for his opponent. He remains a veritable instruction guide on How Not to Box. His talent was that he dragged better fighters down to his level and was tough as nails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2DWswsfpmI

 

Stiverne by round 4 KO. Boxing has evolved far past Joe Louis' time.

 

Stiverne is showing little sign of being the next Joe Louis either.

Louis an ATG. Stiverne just a guy with a belt.

 

Has Bermane even been tested yet? Smh

Louis KO4

 

Stiverne too fast, too slick, too black.

 

Too black?

 

You are right we are measuring an incomplete work but as the thread was started yesterday and not in say 8 years time we can only judge the big modern heavy with titties as he is right up til now in his career

 

If galento didn't have bad technique then I am a wlad cheerleader :nut

Powerful left hook yes but a fat out of shape alley brawler

 

Not to offend, but it's simplistic and somewhat lazy thinking to suggest that this ends inside a round in Louis' favour.
Stiverne is a solid, strong fighter with good skills. His style is not conducive to an early Louis knockout since he's quite content to pick his spots and bide his time.

I think this is one of those matchups that is as much an era matchup as it is a matchup between two fighters, since so much has changed between Louis' era and Stiverne's.

Of course, if we're simply comparing skills then Louis for me is miles ahead, but it's not quite that simple. Stiverne is a solid 240-pounder who can box and punch, so he's not easy meat like a Johnny Paycheck.

That said, I wasn't particularly impressed with Stiverne in his last fight. He was getting outworked by the game but limited Arreola (whom he had already beaten) and he shipped some big shots.
His power surfaced and that smoothed over the cracks, but he was getting hit a lot with right hands.

Arreola and Louis have different styles, but I think a faster, sharper puncher like Louis would be able to penetrate Stiverne's high guard far more regularly than Arreola did.

But it wouldn't be an easy fight in my eyes. Stiverne is a good overall puncher and has good skills. The one area which usually favours the modern fighters much more, but is not going to here, is height.
They are about the same height (6'2") and the reach difference is not significant enough to be a big factor. So Stiverne has bulk and strength on his side, Louis has speed and sharpness on his. (Not to mention a decided edge in overall skill)

 

There's no proof that Stiverne is anything but a 1 round ko victim of the greatest heavyweight puncher of all time....no proof at all.

 

It took him 6 rounds to stop Arreola, but he's going to stop the greatest
boxer puncher in history within 4. I think not. Stiverne has a right hand
and a decent chin that's about it. Don't see him at this stage beating any elite heavies. Could be interesting against Wlad, I doubt it though.

 

I don't think his defense or his footwork is great at all, but he has a classic power puncher stance.

In his stance, and positioning, he can get maximal power from his punches.

Remember, this guy was a strong man, and while many power lifters look out of shape, they tend to be very explosive.

He was a very dangerous puncher, and while his boxing ability obviously left a lot to be desired, at least he used his short stature to his advantage.

If anyone got a in a pure shootout with him, his punch could knock somebody's head off.

There was very fat, but incredibly strong Japanese fighter at a boxing gym, and the guy couldn't do much of anything, but he had more power than any other fighter I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot.

He was short, probably nore more than 5'9'' and about 240 lbs or more.

But if he connected his punch on you, it was lights out.

 

Louis takes him out before the 5th round