Joe Louis v George Chuvalo would George be there at the end of the 15th?

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  1. BIG DEE

    BIG DEE Active Member Full Member

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    BIG DEE HERE= Paolino Uzcudun was KOed by a right hand up the pike by Joe Louis sending Uzcudun`s mouthpiece thru his lip causing 20 plus stiches to used to sew him back together. JOE LOUIS WOULD BE THE FIRST MAN TO
    PUT CHUVALO ON THE DECK AND MORE THAN LIKELY THE FIRST ONE TO KO HIM OUTRIGHT. SOME WHERE AROUND THE 4TH RD IT WOULD END FOR CHUVALO
     
  2. bigjake

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    i disagree,tommy far took joe 15 rds no better a boxer then george chuvalo.now you say 1 of the most durable fighters of all time will be taken out by louis.chuvalo lasts the distance and gives joe some trouble with his left hook and body punching
     
  3. bigjake

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    some of you don't know very much about chuvalo at all
     
  4. BIG DEE

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    BIG DEE HERE= Tommy Farr was a very good boxer and slipper of punches while George Chuvalo was not a good boxer who kept from getting hit as he
    took punches by the ton. George Chuvalo was a fighter that would have been a sitting duck for Joe Louis in his prime. Comparing them is not even in the same ballpark as Farr was a far better boxer than George. George hit harder but took many more punches than Tommy Farr. Farr on the other
    hand took a punch just slightly less in his prime than Chuvalo. Louis couldn`t deck him over the 15rds they fought but Tommy was tricky and hard to hit cleanly as Louis found out. Max Baer decked Tommy Farr twice both with
    Baer`s vastly underrated left hook in their second fight. They weren`t flash
    knock-downs as Tommy went down hard both times. Farr could really take a punch. Styles make fights and Chuvalo`s style was tailor made for Joe Louis to absolutely tee-off on.
     
  5. round15

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    I think Chuvalo would come out of his corner for the 15th round and he'd still be attacking Joe Louis. At this stage in the fight, Louis has probably inflicted significant damage to Chuvalo's face, but I don't think Louis would have him down though. The potential is certainly there for Louis to put Chuvalo on the canvas but I think George could withstand his big shots. Chuvalo would land plenty of shots to the body and hurt Louis more than once in this fight but the final decision would go to Louis by minimum of 3 points.
     
  6. Manassa

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    As Janitor suggested, Chuvalo might give Louis some problems. Louis could win just a decision in the first fight...

    ... But in a rematch, it would be a blood bath. Chuvalo wouldn't just be stopped, he'd be floored for the first and second times in his career, possibly getting up, but only to be staggered and stopped moments later.

    Being hit by Joe Louis is different to being hit by George Foreman. Foreman moved the punchbag more with his telegraphed swings, but Louis stabbed it in the back with a varied arsenal.

    Frazier was quick with his hooks and it was hard to see them coming, and he had Chuvalo stunned, but he didn't have the other punches to follow it up with; far from a one-handed fighter, Frazier's other punches still were nowhere near up to scratch with the left hook.

    Louis was as equally powerful with either hand and wasn't the type to charge in and get smothered by a good defence. He found the range and hit when the moment was right, forcefully and aggressively but intelligently and never frantically.

    Chuvalo was a good fighter and doesn't deserve the disrespect of being called a punching bag, but against Louis he'd just be another knockout victim in a long line of fighters who never thought they'd get knocked out.
     
  7. Manassa

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    Farr was not a physical force like Chuvalo, but tricky and cagey. Louis won a clear (but not comfortable decision), and wasn't able to finish him due to an injured hand; watch the fight, he hardly uses the right. Louis opted to jab his way to victory and according to my great uncle (live at the fight), he mashed Farr's nose until blood smeared his face from top to bottom.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Farr told my Da louis beat him ,and hs face was a mess afterwards,he was marked under both eyes ,his nose was swollen and he had lumps on his brows.Luis reckoned he would have stopped Tommy if his right hand was 100%.If Chuvalo survived the first fight I think Louis woud have dropped him for good in the return ,he was murder the second time around ,and had as complete an arsenal of correctly delivered ,precise,power punches, as the division has seen
     
  9. bigjake

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    we don't really know what would happen all pure conjecture.funny how a few ppl on here wants chuvalo on the canvas.the fact remains 93 pro fights never off his feet thats fact,never off his feet as an amature either or in sparring fact.
     
  10. Manassa

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    Great achievement, but then he was never up against Joe Louis.
     
  11. mcvey

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    I'm an admirer of Chuvalo for his guts and durability,I started this thread for in put from other posters ,not to talk him down.Remember though ,that Baer,Galento and Uzcudon hadnt been kod either ,till they met Louis .
     
  12. bigjake

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    Baer didn't take the shot chuvalo could and i doubt Galento did either.i'd love to pose this question to big george sometime and hear what he says,i'll let you know here on this forum what he says

    Bigjake
     
  13. pmfan

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    I suspect he greatly respects Louis and would say he couldn't have beaten him. If Marciano could say such a thing (after beating the washed up Louis) Chuvalo could too, I'm sure.

    Chuvalo was not nearly as crude as some people seem to be remembering him. I just watched his great fight with Floyd Patterson the other night on TV. Chuvalo knew how to fight. He threw combinations. I think Louis' sharp combinations would probably have eventually caused a TKO, but you never know.
     
  14. bigjake

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    and louis never fought a guy as tough as chuvalo either my son.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

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    I beg to differ