Joe Louis V George Foreman

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I got Louis. Louis is by far the best combination punching HW. Very accurate as well.

 

It is a cat wrapped in a towel.

He looked a bit like Sony Liston in that picture, so I loved it!

 

You would simply have to be kidding.

 

They both were big, in fact, Buddy was bigger. They were both hard punching sluggers.

 

Louis gets knocked down hard early on, rallies back with the jab, then from the 4th round on persistently overwhelms Foreman with stunning combinations. A particularly tight combination, ending with a perfect right to the jaw, knocks George senseless in the 7th round and he's counted out.

 

There's no wrong answer. I'd be worried for anyone overly confident one way or another. Both are awesome and both have their stylistic advantages. Both could knock out the other. I shade ever so softly toward Louis. His accuracy and countering under fire and ability to completely turn the tide with one short punch may be pivotal.

 

Incredible Super Bout indeed. The only heavyweight fantasy bouts better involving both fighters would be Louis-Liston and Foreman-Holmes. I don't see Foreman steamrolling Louis like he did Frazier. Foreman might be the aggressor but he needs to be accurate and precise. Very dangerous because it leaves him open for pinpoint counters from Louis.

Both fighters have top notch power, Foreman the more powerful slugger with Louis the better combo puncher. Foreman has the better chin but really wasn't tested that much in his prime. Louis proved throughout his career to get up after being decked from shots that seemed to wake him up. Similar to Tito Trinidad as he dusted himself off and dialed it up a notch.

Very tough to call but I lean towards Louis and his stylistic advantages. His combination punching and power make him the slight favorite.

 

They are no worse than Jimmy Young

 

Why are you using the Jimmy Young version of Foreman? The undefeated confident version of 3 years prior would obviously be the version pitched forth not the guy struggling for technical identity among other things.

Sharkey was over the hill with 12 losses behind him fighting for the last time against Louis. Pretty sure Foreman is no worse than the likes of Tony Shucco and Risko among plenty of others via your criteria. You have to be taking the ****.

A light heavyweight against a monster like Foreman who could cut the ring off beautifully is another gee up.

Pastor and Farr wouldn't end pretty either.

Walcott could potentially be awkward for a while but he could also be whaled out of there.

 

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Don't insult my intelligence. I told you I literally just re watched the fight.

He is flat footed and standing right in front of Baer. Let's listen to the commentary since you want to be a smart ass.

1:40-1:54 Announcer: "A WAR HAS ENSUED HERE BETWEEN THESE TWO MEN. JOE LOUIS WITH SHORT SHARP PUNCHES ON THE INSIDE!!!"

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So you don't think I can trust my own eyes, but apparently the play by play boxing commentator who watches boxing for a living can't trust his own eyes either? The audience exploded in an uproar because they "thought" they saw Louis and Baer exchanging punches in a slug fest 1.5 feet from each other?

 

He uses footwork brilliantly here and he stayed outside of Baer's range when he doesn't attack. His head movement is excellent as well. I mean, you can disagree with what I describe his footwork here but it's definitely NOT slow.

 

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. You're WRONG.

-They stood shoulder to shoulder and leaned on each other.

-They exchanged punches. You cannot claim fighter A is "darting in and out" when I can ****ing press play on the video and see them exchanging and trading blows within 2 minutes.

-Louis' feet and heels were flat on the ground, other than 2 or 3 instances of him jumping back to avoid a wild hayemaker. He used slow lateral movement to circle around Baer, but Baer was circling too. It's not like he was bouncing around on his toes like Ali or shuffling around quickly the way Pacquiao does (which is what you keep trying to imply). Ironically, it was BAER who, after tasting the sting of Louis' punches, started retreating and using footwork to back off but Louis kept pressing forwars stalking him.

-For the most part it was a war on the inside. Do you not understand what a "war" is? I know you do so why are you being disingenuous? When Louis had Baer backed up in the corner it looked no different than Leo Santa Cruz vs Abner Mares or Holyfield vs Bowe. Again, you can't say 2 fighters are having a war trading shots and then simultaneously claim Louis is jumping in and out with hit and run tactics. It's a complete contradiction.

-he did not stay outside Baer's range. He did the opposite: he got closer to Baer to avoid being on the receiving end of his looping hayemakers since Baer had longer arms. Now in a hypothetical fight sjth Foreman, this might actually be a goid idea since Foreman is so big and has long arms too. The problem is Foreman might push Louis back or use his big uppercuts.

-I do agree Louis had good head movement and fought a smart tactical fight with superb technique, sharp punches, and accuracy (landing 3 hooks in a row is something very few people can do. I've only seen Frazier and Roy Jones do it).

If you're so confident in your assessment, put up a poll and ask people if they think Louis wasn't flat footed and was darting in and out like Pacquiao here:

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The footwork and tactics of the two fights are COMPLETE OPPOSITES.

 

Foreman doesn't even flinch against Louis.
Foreman slaughters Louis with ease.