Joe Louis V larry holmes

Well, I favour Ali to beat Louis but i don´t think Holmes can equal this feat. Ali´s has faster hands and feet which allow him to stay away from Louis for a bigger amount of time than Holmes and Ali has a better chin than Holmes that would allow him to take what Louis has to offer when he can´t get away. Imo Louis would get Holmes and finish him somewhere between round 8 and 10 while beeing behind on the cards by 2-3 rounds, just can´t see Holmes staying away from Louis for 15 rounds.

 

I can see Larry giving Louis problems with his excellent Left Jab with he would employ frequently. However, Louis would figure out a way past that Jab, and once you made it past Holmes' Jab he was vulnerable. Joe was a better in fighter and would counter with Left hooks and straight rights. Larry had a good chin so I don't see a KO, although I believe both would hit the Canvas. Louis is a notch or 2 above Holmes in terms of talent so I would give Louis a 15rd. UD.

 

KEY is the Louis Right hand of the jab left to the liver and right over the top...Joe's right hand would make Larry reluctant to Jab....Louis by KO

 

Louis here. Louis would be able to land his big right hands on Holmes and finish him off sometime in the mid to late rounds. Holmes would probably be leading slightly but I don't think he'd be able to avoid Louis for 15.

 

Anyone who watches the films knows Holmes jab could not miss a Louis. Louis had a low guard, predictable / slow feet, and had trouble with lateral movement.

Louis struggled with boxers like Pastor, Conn, and Farr ( to a degree ) , and Walcott. The flims and news read show us this.

Holmes took a much better punch than those who troubled Louis, fought smart, had far greater range. He also likely hit harder, though some might argue Wlacott hit harder. For my money Holmes would score a TKO over Louis much the same way Schemling did.

 

I like Louis by late round knockout in a competitive fight.

 

Holmes ud 15. Larry's jab would keep Louis at bay long enough to inflict damage. Around the 10th Louis has figured out Larry's jab and starts to time his right over it. Larry would soon realize that he had to come up with new stuff. Larry starts throwing combo's to keep Louis from getting to his inside. Joe fires back with hard shots of his own. A heated exchange starts in the middle of the ring with Joe getting the better of Larry. Larry backs off but he did some damage to Joe aswell. He works the jab and doesn't allow Louis to set his feet. By the 15th round both are battered, swollen, and bloody, but still have plenty left in the tank and aren't too eager to get it on in the last round. The two of them square off center ring. Larry throws a 1-2, Joe lands a left hook counter after getting tagged by the jab but slipping the right. He slips under a few more shots and closely the gap quickly and pounds Larry's ribs. Holmes clinches and spins Joe around trying to buy some time. The ref breaks them up and Larry throws a 1-2-3-4. They all land. Louis is knocked backwards but isn't down. Larry seeing he has hurt Louis rushes in. The bell rings. The fighters get a standing ovation from the crowd. It is announced. Holmes wins a split decision.

 

Holmes weakness of being very vunerable to being hit by good right hands in his prime will catch up with him against the greatest puncher of all time. Louis will exploit holmes biggest flaw, and his other big flaw of attempting to brawl his way out of trouble when hurt/staggered. good luck trying to do that vs louis.


Joe Louis KO 7 Larry Holmes

 

You exagerate Holmes's vulnerablility to right hands. He got tagged twice when he was completely beating the other guy and he got careless. He wouldn't do that against Louis. He got dropped by a Shavers right hand (no shame there) and a right hand by Snipes that would have dropped most. The right hand that Snipes landed on Larry was like the left hook the Cooper landed on Clay. Just the cause of someone being careless as they dominate.

 

Spot on. I can not recall Louis timing a right hand kncok down after a jab anyway.

 

Louis would not have a hard time with Holmes and Schmeling would also be a danger for Larry but not as stern as Louis, there is no comparison to a Snipes right hand unfollowed by a combo or a solo Shavers right . Joe Louis once you are hurt takes you out

 

No, but what I was saying to Suzie Q was that he makes it seem like even we could hit Larry with a right hand over the jab. When Shavers dropped Larry it was mainly due to Larry's lack of guard and he took a chance and paid for it. He threw a right uppercut on the outside and Shavers got Larry as he dropped his left as he threw the uppercut. Snipes caught Larry off guard and hit him with a double jab right hand combo that got Larry. Larry quickly swung back and hurt Renaldo.

 

I often tend to go back and forth on who I'd favor to take this fight, but after reading some of your well laid out points, I have to pick Holmes.

Frankly, I can think of no boxer whom Louis ever faced that was in Holmes league, and many of the quality technicians that Joe DID face, usually gave him some trouble. Additionally, Larry was arguably one of the most durable fighters in the division's history, and although Louis was extremely dangerous, I don't see a knockout occurring in Louis's favor. Joe would have his fair share of moments, where he would stun Holmes and land some of those lethal combinations, but I think he'd spend the majority of the evening on the end of Larry's jab.

Holmes by decision or possibly late stoppage.

 

My initial thinking makes me pick Louis, just because i think he was slightly greater. But Mendoza and Mr. Magoo have reminded me why i have not posted that opinion here, and also why i have hesitated before doing so each time i was about to. Holmes imo.