Joe Louis' Vastly Under Rated Chin

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  1. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foxy 01, that's like saying Babe Ruth and Ted Williams were good batters ......

    Sure, if you call the La Motta's, McCalls, Hagler's and Chuvalo's 'good', then 99% of boxers become poor-to-mediocre.
     
  2. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Well you know they had OK chins .. BTW, I heard a guy named Fitzsimmons used to be a so so puncher .. :nut
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Unless Louis was the greatest defensive heavyweight of all time he must have had a damn good chin .. again, I think up to Ali he easily fought the collection of big punchers of any heavyweight champion ..
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I think there is a lot of substance to this post.:good
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I say again, prior to Ali who fought more big punchers than Louis?

    Retzlaff
    Max Baer
    Max Schmeling
    Jimmy Braddock
    Tony Galento
    Abe Simon
    Buddy Baer
    Tami Mauriello
    Joe Walcott

    Every one of these guys could crack ..mothers like Godoy and Nova were not slouches either.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    H. E .I think you are making defensive ripostes against my posts when no negative comments have been given.:huh

    I'm with you on this,those you mentioned were big punchers and several of them dropped or hurt Louis.He was a very great champ but he didn't have an S on his chest. His chin was ok , not Chuvalo style but that is exceptional.
     
  7. Entaowed

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    Conn was not under 170 when fighting for the title.
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Wlad has 65 fights and has only been stopped three times since 1996. Do you think he has a good chin? I do not, but please answer that question.

    Once again, chins are best tested when they are hit. I have told you this before, but we know your bigoted at times when the truth does not coincide with you personal basis.

    If a 168 pound man not known for power can shake up a heavyweight, that heavyweight does not have a good chin.
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    50 right hands in the last round? BS. You might want to watch the last round closely as Louis delivers a mean one below the belt that hurt Schmeling prior to Schmeling finishing Louis off in the same round. Yes--its on film, if you don't have an edited version.:hi:
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Louis' weight was announced as 199½ and Conn's as 174. However, it has been reported that Louis actually weighed 204 and Conn was 169.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Not all of these guys were big time punchers. Braddock a big time puncher?

    What you can say is any puncher than lands good one on Louis floored him. Those with good chins do not go down as often.
     
  12. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't exactly say that, I said I didn't think he could have been stunned by a Billy Conn or Tommy Farr. The young Ali was knocked down by Banks and Cooper had him in a bad way, but Jones and Spinks didn't seem to buzz him much. The Ali who took Foreman's, Shavers, and Frazier's blows wasn't going to hit the mat against a Galento or Braddock.
     
  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    B-Hop was not considered peak when he made his light heavyweight run but IMO he was a better fighter with better scalps at light heavyweight, he used his experience well, Big George was not considered peak in career 2 and he was past the Foreman 1 physically but Foreman 2 was a better fighter, more experience and recognized his weakness and adapted as well as he could. Schmeling was not far from his physical best and smarter than ever. The Schmeling of fight 2 was past it and riddled with the pressures of his country and personal problems. Prime has variables and is not always just the physical
     
  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Wlad's chin is china .. I have never seen any fighter fight so scared as he has time and again .. to his credit he has mastered it but by no means is it any reflection on chin strength . it is in spite of it ..
     
  15. mcvey

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    We know you dislike Louis and we know why, as Klompton as pointed out.

    I didn't say Louis was hit with 50 right hands, he did in his book.
    You've seen fouls in two Louis fights ,[Baer 2 and Schmeling2,] that did not happen, and it's been pointed out to you by other posters that they didn't happen .

    Louis unintentionally landed low in the 12th and last rd of first Schmeling fight ,I think he was nearly out of it by then.

    "When I came around Roxie was talking to me I asked him what I was doing wrong.
    I didn't hear a thing he was saying until he said I hit Schmeling a couple of low blows.
    That made me feel even worse.I sent Roxie over to Schmeling's dressing room to apologize for me and to tell him I didn't know what I was doing and that I didn't intentionally hit him low.
    Whe Roxie came back , he said Schmeling was real nice about it and he understood I didn't and wouldn't pull a low blow on purpose."

    "Joe Louis My Life."
    Louis sprained both thumbs in the fight.

    You've had your arse kicked trying to discredit Louis on the thread you made, everyone disagreed with you. I corrected 14 incorrect points that you did not reply to despite frequent requests.
    I'd say you've lost your credibility , but you forfeited that a long time ago.


    Now you're here trying to discredit Louis again ,you just don't like that old sepia hue do you?