Joe Louis vs Alexander Povetkin

HOF fighter. Must explain precisely why Louis would be relevant in the modern scene.

 

Ask Whiterspoon, he's active here and on YT. Send him all prime Louis fights available and ask him for conclusion.

 

From a technical standpoint, there is nobody better than Louis, in the current heavyweight top ten.

You might perhaps make a case for Usky, but he had nothing approaching Louis's power.

What Louis had would have transcended eras.

 

You are wasting your time replying to him the man is an idiot.I will no longer rise to his bait

 

Clearly, you did not see that fight.

 

Joe Louis was almost knocked out by light punching 170 pound Billy Conn. Which means Louis struggled with Conn's power. Also Max Schmeling a 180-190 pound fighter did knockout out Louis. Povetkin is 6'2 225. Povetkin spent his career fighting 200 plus pound heavyweights with modern skill. Louis spend his career facing 180 pound guys for the most part who didn't have modern skills.

Povetkin by brutal knockout.

 

I did. It was fairly competitive until Povetkin caught price with the hook that led to the stoppage. Povetkin had to settle for mostly body shots and flurries and had a hard time landing flush shots to the head. Price showed decent defense and a high guard but didn't throw enough.

Either way, the fact Povetkin was competitive with a guy like that, along with Takam and Huck, obliterates the notion that Povetkin would just waltz in there and destroy Louis in 1 round. It's comedy.

 

The fact Louis fought and beat several men who weighed significantly more than Conn, Schmeling, and Povetkin himself (men who also hit pretty hard), indicates that using ABC logic to argue Louis would lose to Povetkin on the grounds of size+power is illogical.

If Povetkin won the fight it wouldn't be because of size. They were the same height and maybe 10 lbs apart. Louis completely demolished several fighters who were much larger than Povetkin. He also beat men who you could definitely argue hit harder than Povetkin such as Baer.

Now if you wanted to argue that it would be the combination of size+power+skill, you'd have a leg to stand on. It would still be a bit of a stretch, but it would make way more sense than pretending Povetkin would be "too big and strong". But, again, Louis has beaten several skilled boxers such as Schmeling or Walcott. It's not as if Povetkin is going to be dazzling Louis like some alien solider fighting a caveman with skills he's never encountered before. What makes Povetkin good is a solid grasp on the fundamentals and always being in shape with decent ring IQ. Well rounded in many areas. Outside of his hook and good balance, he isn't particularly amazing in one area (compared to other elites).

The flip side to this is that Povetkin struggled with two men who are Louis' size (Takam and Huck), and neither of these men hit as hard as Louis and weren't in the same area code for skill. Point being, ABC logic is flawed and a lazy approach that can be turned around quite easily.

 

Okay.

I'll believe you saw the fight.

I don't believe you've ever had your eyes checked.

There was 30 seconds when Price landed on an off-balance Povetkin, and still didn't get a KD.

The rest of the fight was a one-sided beat-down, culminating in a fifth round KO.

You might as well claim that Cooper gave Ali a competitive fight (and he got an actual KD).


If you thought that fight was competitive, maybe boxing isn't for you.





Regarding the thread question, I would lean towards Louis, but only very slightly.

This is almost a pick'em fight.

IMO, Povetkin beats all of Loius' opponents.

He quite possibly beats Joe as well, but if I had to bet, I'd pick Louis by a close decision.

 

Because I can see who is on the list, and none of those listed are writers.

 

The difference being Cooper was a really good fighter where as Price was average at best

 

The ropes held up Povetkin. That's why it was a knockdown. Dozens of refs have made that call in dozens of fights. If anyone needs an eye exam it's you.

It was competitive in spots, but not from start to finish. Are you denying that Povetkin mostly attacked the body because price was protecting his head well outside of the two flush hooks Povetkin landed (which were counter shots that landed when price was in the middle of a swing)?

 

Nothing wrong with my eyes. The count was legit in that the ropes kept Povetkin from falling. But it wasn't an actual KD...Povetkin took eight steps backward before he reached the ropes. In both instances where he knocked Price down, he dropped him on the spot like a sack of potatoes.

It was a beatdown , a blow-out.

Price didn't win a single round, not even the round where Povetkin was counted.

And he was KTFO'd decisively.